Hostile, how? Am I being threatening or insulting? No. I'm genuinely trying to be helpful here. The earlier discussions were unproductive because of misleading information from the manufacturer and then from shills who posed as impartial reviewers/customers. In the end nobody knew who to believe, so everyone decided that the topic was best left alone.

There's no way you could've known about any controversy relating to Cave products; I can understand that. Unfortunately, the very nature of Cave's dialogue with this forum means that any mention of the subject is going to be met with suspicion before anything else.

I'm sorry if you feel you've had a less-than-warm welcome here, but if you want to blame anyone, blame the Cave shills.

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