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EI 7025's are great for the clean channel of any amp IMO. I have one in the clean slot of my classic 30 and the amp can get very loud without breaking up.
i looked on 2 sites and Ei doesnt have a 7025 listed, is that their regular 12AX7 or their "gold or elite" or whatever type...they have 3 types of 12AX7s and none listed in British form of 7025
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i looked on 2 sites and Ei doesnt have a 7025 listed, is that their regular 12AX7 or their "gold or elite" or whatever type...they have 3 types of 12AX7s and none listed in British form of 7025
Here is a link to the 7025 that I've been saving. You're right. It's their regular 12ax7 used as a replacement for a 7025. I want to retube my C30 with these tubes and use it in my rig in some way. It's such a kick ass little amp.
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well, ya. but the way i compiled it i read lots of reviews from tube experts, and personal preferences of guys here on guitargeek and the THD forum and fenderforum.com and a couple others. its not like im taking the best ones that i like as ive only tried a few as of yet, i still have some to review..

basically, the basis for the current production ones is how well they hold up to the NOS ones and how consistent they are to what that tube type is supposed to sound like, tube life, and build quality. for the NOS ones, the basis is THE tubes that defined early Fender and Marshall amps, along with a few other brands of the 60s. the NOS tubes i listed are the best ones according to experts who used tests such as the ones i listed above.

does that help you believe they're not just all my own opinion...the only ones i own are Chinese 12AX7s, Chinese EL34s, NOS 6W6GTs, NOS 6K6GTs, NOS 6V6GTs, and NOS 12AU7 and 12AT7..all my NOS are lesser known, not as popular NOS tubes all made in America i got in a bundle from a forum member on Univalve.net for THD amp owners. and i havent tried any of the NOS yet except the 6W6GTs which sound great, but RCA blackplate and GE 6W6GTs may not be "the best" of that kind based on expert evaluations...its very biased but these are well known highly used and recommended tubes..so u can take my word for it or not and try them and im sure most of them will be to your liking

sry for the rant...i dont like when ppl try to disprove me. cuz i wouldnt say the "BEST" if i didnt think they were or have good reason to say so

i will never make posts this long again i promise

that my friend, was a hell of an explination. hah

thanks again for the info.
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i got all out, i want ppl to know i mean business, i could have said more too!
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Here is a link to the 7025 that I've been saving. You're right. It's their regular 12ax7 used as a replacement for a 7025. I want to retube my C30 with these tubes and use it in my rig in some way. It's such a kick ass little amp.
thats what i was thinking. sounds good. ill add this to the current production 12AX7 list and put a link, thanks for the feedback
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ok dudes, say i gotta VOX AC30CC2 (with wharfdales, NOT alnico blues)

what tubes will go well in that? and what sound will they make?
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well think about it this way, you know u need EL84s so now u have to decide what EL84s are good for you..below is a link for a test of several different current production and NOS EL84s. it was conducted by Brian May from Queen and some other guy whose name sounds familiar and one of the guys at Watford Valves..

http://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin...treport_33.pdf thats the '98 review

http://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin...treport_47.pdf thats the '05 review

this should be of good use to you since, ultimately, you decide what EL84 you want and not us...some of these ones arent that expensive so they would be worth just buying and trying...also check to see if anyone at your local shops knows first hand. good luck and hope those links help...watford valves also has many other reviews that you will find on their site..very useful info.
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well think about it this way, you know u need EL84s so now u have to decide what EL84s are good for you..below is a link for a test of several different current production and NOS EL84s. it was conducted by Brian May from Queen and some other guy whose name sounds familiar and one of the guys at Watford Valves..

http://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin...treport_33.pdf thats the '98 review

http://www.watfordvalves.com/cgi-bin...treport_47.pdf thats the '05 review

this should be of good use to you since, ultimately, you decide what EL84 you want and not us...some of these ones arent that expensive so they would be worth just buying and trying...also check to see if anyone at your local shops knows first hand. good luck and hope those links help...watford valves also has many other reviews that you will find on their site..very useful info.


ok so el84's are pre amp tubes? or power amp tubes? oh, and does achanging the rectifier tube change the sound?
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EL84s are the power amp tubes in AC30s and 12AX7s are the preamp tubes in em..so read those reviews i put links too and here are some more EL84 ones and a 12AX7 one from tubestore.com

http://tubestore.com/el84review.html

http://tubestore.com/12ax7review.html

these, along with the one 2 i gave u should give you nearly all the info you need..and if u want more. find tube retailer sites and see if they have reviews, check the reviews on harmony-central, not sure if they have tube reviews..but under the AC30CC2 there will be tube info and also do searches here..guitargeek has a lot of info for tubes, you just need to find it
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EL84s are the power amp tubes in AC30s and 12AX7s are the preamp tubes in em..so read those reviews i put links too and here are some more EL84 ones and a 12AX7 one from tubestore.com

http://tubestore.com/el84review.html

http://tubestore.com/12ax7review.html

these, along with the one 2 i gave u should give you nearly all the info you need..and if u want more. find tube retailer sites and see if they have reviews, check the reviews on harmony-central, not sure if they have tube reviews..but under the AC30CC2 there will be tube info and also do searches here..guitargeek has a lot of info for tubes, you just need to find it
oh wow thanks man!
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but isnt "the best" a little subjective?
you may be right...unless....


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I'm, confused. reading bout nos tubes, but I can't find anything about Telefunken. do you think they're worse than mullard and other nos tubes mentioned here?

I was pretty sure that the're fantastic. was I wrong?
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telefunken are good tubes, but compared to other NOS ones like Mullards, only some of the Telefunkens hold their own...they arent up there yet because im still working on my list and am reading more everyday about the best NOS tubes..if you can name a few ill add them and see what other ppl think
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choosing crunchiest tubes with the most body,,

I have a question concerning finding the tubes that give more gain/crunch without losing body and sounding too thin,

I am currently playing through a vintage 1969 Ampeg B25 (50Watt) using a 77' Travis Bean Artist. The amp sounds amazing, very clean and has a little punch to it but my only problem is it's a little too clean, and at times a little too thin sounding. I know that it has a little to do with the guitar im playing too but i love that guitar and would never play anything else.

The Ampeg B25 just had a cap job done, as well as 2 SED 6L6GC's, and has the old vintage Amprex 12aX7's in it. The sound of the amp is amazing, very vintage sounding, reminds me of Kieth Richards guitar sound on some of the songs from Tattoo You album.

I've been curious to try different 12aX7 preamp tubes in it to see if i can get a little bit more crunchy gain to it without losing any body. I tried swapping the AMprex 12aX7 for channel 1 to a Chinese made one and it made it sound a bit thinner but without the noticable gain difference, so i swapped the Amprex back in.

I've sort of remedied the lack of gain by using a MXR microamp clean boost pedal but even that is not enough to saturate the tone for a push of crunch as well as sustain. Plus i would really like to try to remedy the problem in the amp without having to rely on pedals.

Has anyone tried the Electro-Harmonix preamp tubes? I've heard they give it a bit more gain, without the loss of body or thinning out the sound. Should i be looking at the power tubes also? The ones i have are brand new SED 6L6GC's, maybe they aren't crunchy enough?

Also, i have the bias set to 16 watts idle dissapation per tube which i was told was a little on the high side. Maybe i should have it biased higher?
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I really wish i could help you but i havent tried any EHX tubes as of yet. Also, im not home so sorry for not posting sooner like i normally would. im on a friends comp and dont get to use it much either. I would really appreciate if you other tube experts could help our fellow 'geek out until i have time to research the info to give him a real answer. im so glad my tube thread is doing so well and hope that my information is useful...please let me know what experiences u have had with the tubes i have listed so far, or if my thread influenced tubes you have gotten recently in any way. thanks and will post again next week when i get my computer in my possession

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