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Old 10.01.03, 12:57 PM
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I have an AVT50 combo and thought the cleans were nice at bedroom volumes but at louder volumes you have to increase the gain and it dirtys up. Also it's not as trebley as I'd like (I realise the speaker is designed to enhance bass frequencies, and Marshalls are generally a bit bassy).

I now use an all-valve Traynor for clean and the Marshall for dirty. The Traynor is much brighter and touch-sensitive, plus my Big Muff sounds MILES better through it than the Marshall.

Overall the AVT clean is good compared to solid state but can't compete with all-valve (this is probably stating the obvious though!). I expect the higher wattage AVTs give greater clean head room but I haven't tried them so don't know for sure.
i've got the avt 50 half stack. The cleans on it are pretty good. I haven't had a problem with adding too much gain to get it up to level. I do actually like the slightly driven sound you get when you crank the gain on the clean side. And i realize it's not the best amp for straight cleans, but it's good enough for me.
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I've been looking at the new Traynors. Is yours one of the new ones?
My Traynor is a 1979 YGM-3 guitar mate reverb (if that means anything to anyone). It was my dad's and he got it cheap because the shop was totally clueless. Even better I got it free from him when he bought a line 6 amp. I think it's meant to be based on a Marshall plexi and slightly crunches when pushed but I use it clean. I'll post some pics soon when I've finished fiddling with my setup.
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most marshalls have decent cleans actually. jimi hendrix used a marshall and had superb cleans
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The only Marshalls that DONT have good clean channels in my opinion are the JCM 900's, the JCM 800's and the MGs/some of the AVT's.
Yea I have an MG. The distortion's not bad... but the clean channel sucks.
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i can get alright cleans with my avt100 but i still want another amp like a dsl or tsl 50 or 60 half stack
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I don't think it does... I think he only uses a delay pedal. Most of the modulation comes from the keyboard.
they use the line 6 modelres
theres always alot of delay, flange, phase and chorus on it. they are ****ing sex. best sound ever
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What is up with all these people recommending Marshall MG's?

WHY?!?!?
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did you say that with a Arnold Swarzenegger voice?
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did you say that with a Arnold Swarzenegger voice?
The gap between good Marshall's and the MG series is so wide, I could drive my hummer through it!!
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I've tested the Marshall Valvestate 100W recently and the cleans were pretty damn good - no drama!
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how are the cleans on this one? click here
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The gap between good Marshall's and the MG series is so wide, I could drive my hummer through it!!
so is the price difference

I'll buy a tube amp when I get rich.
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There are affordable tube amps out there. You could get a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, a Peavey Classic 30, a Sovtek mig-50 head, a Fender Blues Deluxe. There are options to get a good quality tube amp. You could get one of these tube amps off of ebay for the price of a new solid state amp.
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If you can find a JCM600 give it a try. I had a 112 combo of this model and it really had a fantastic clean. It didn't get as brutal as the 900 or 2000 on the lead channel, but it sounds like that's not what you are really going for.
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