Agreed.

But still, not to be an A**, or to continue the argument. When you watch him play it live, on the morning view sessions dvd, you see tons of shots of his pedal board and no flanger is to be found. So by deductive reasoning he uses a phaser. Thats not to say he didnt use one on the recording, but then why didnt he have one in his rig. When he played it on the dvd it sounded identical to the cd.

yeah. its a perfect example of the law of detachment:

if mikes board doesnt have a flanger on it and he sounds exactly right on the morning view sessions, then he doesnt use a flanger.


sorry about the pissing contest. i guess it really doesnt matter.

__________________
My Gear Page Out of date.
FOR SALE/TRADE:
Ibanez cf7
Dano chicken salad vibrato

Want:
little big muff
behringer big muff
jazzmaster

Had successful trades with: zacharybroyles, wren, lombax, triton, preservation, LPRstrat, Tyler Durden, nostar000, veerchasm, aureate_7

mode 2 of the ph-2 is a lot like a modern flange effect IMO. with the volume swells of "nice to know you", you could use a flanger or a phaser for it

__________________
Guitar.Cable.Amp.

agreed. mode 2 on the ph-2 is a lot like a modern flanger. so really it doesnt matter which you use. at the end of the day the tab book says its a flanger, whereas the morning view sessions strongly suggest trhe it is indeed a phaser. lets just refrain from getting bitchy about which one is used. i personally use a flanger and to my ears, with my setup it sounds better, but i have tried it with a phaser and can recreate the same effect roughly (with my setup it doesnt sound as good though). peace out....

__________________
Gear + Pedalboard;
http://ellisinchains.myphotoalbum.co...ame=GuitarGear

Currently Loving,
Dredg - Catch Without Arms
SOAD - Mesmerize
RHCP - Live at Hyde Park
James Blunt - Back to Bedlam

i agree its all what sounds better to your ears


new question: can anyone tell me what he uses for the verse on idiot box?


thanks if you get back to me

the super phaser

__________________
My Gear Page Out of date.
FOR SALE/TRADE:
Ibanez cf7
Dano chicken salad vibrato

Want:
little big muff
behringer big muff
jazzmaster

Had successful trades with: zacharybroyles, wren, lombax, triton, preservation, LPRstrat, Tyler Durden, nostar000, veerchasm, aureate_7

RE:can anyone tell me what he uses for the verse on idiot box?

It sounds like hes using phase with a fast repeat delay

I was looking for a DOD Gonkulator until i used a Electro Harmonix Frequency Analyser. It beats the s**t outta it!

Anyone know how he controls the delay speed in sick sad little world? Does he do it by hand, i saw him live and i swear he was using a pedal

_________
A picture paints a thousand words, but my words paint a thousand pictures

Dig it B1tches!!

I saw Incubus last night I was front row right in front of Mikey and he had no monitors in the way of his pedal board so I saw all there was to see.

So...
The first song they played was Nice To Know you and wouldn't ya know he used his second super phaser with the mid range speed that Funkatron_shaun mentioned.

The first phaser is set as I have mentioned earlier. And is used in the above mentioned songs as well.

His compressor is used when soloing and in random single note parts for clarification.

The dod overdrive in his rig is used primarily for that slight distortion sound that you hear at the beggining of privalage and also it is on all the time during the warmth.

as fot the phase 90 well we all guessed wrong on that one.

he changes the speed of it for every song its used in,
its at a slower rate in the warmth (he also uses his rotosphere for the chorus in that song)
faster rate for stuff in consequence and nowhere fast and the solo in sick sad little world.

I have a ton of new info will post later as I get more time.

Rock on friends.

I am a firm defender of the Hal Leonard transcribed editions. They don't call them "authentic" for no reason. I'm almost sure they at least contact the artist and run it by them before releasing it, as it's impossible to go to the depth that they do by just listening to the cd.
That being said, it wasn't incorrect for the book to say that it was a flanger. The mode 2 on a ph-2 is closer to a flanger than a phaser, so you're better off using a flanger than your phase 90. I wish, though, that they would tell you exactly what pedals, guitars, and amps are being used. Then it would be the ULTIMATE resource.

Good Stuff, keep it coming

__________________
So I'll try not to breathe as I hold my head still,
the light bends on my face, there'd be tears if I cried
And I'll try not to think what the happy things were
I just think of the stuff that just made me **** scared


Gear Pics!
Rig Thread
Elita's Rev Online

FOR SALE/TRADE:

Vox Valvetone - £45 posted or trade for Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive

Digitech Digidelay (+cash) - trade for Boss DD-20

Hey your from England, Cool.
I went there for a week this summer, good times.



On another note I am a firm non-beleiver in the Hal-Leonard books because the're intended to give you a general transcription and pedal suggestions to the artist's music.
Also I have seen incubus twice now and have seen mike playing some of the song completely diffrent from the books. I'm a firm believer in what musicians do live as opposed to what they do on records.

im a firm beliver in the hal leonard transcribed eidtions, too, but some of the pedals they say are used just arent.

perfect example: 'pitch shifter' in the warmth breakdown.

they just arent right when it comes down to that.


also, i knew that mikey changed phase 90 speeds. i just didnt care to post it. i didnt, however, know what he used his dod 250 for. thats interesting. i know most artists use studio compression, but i didnt know how mikey used it. i just keep my compressor on all the time. im starting to realize that i dont alway need to though.

-shaun

__________________
My Gear Page Out of date.
FOR SALE/TRADE:
Ibanez cf7
Dano chicken salad vibrato

Want:
little big muff
behringer big muff
jazzmaster

Had successful trades with: zacharybroyles, wren, lombax, triton, preservation, LPRstrat, Tyler Durden, nostar000, veerchasm, aureate_7

Ok...

Another rad thing I havent mentioned yet is that while playing Mike will use the side of his foot to turn his phase 90 knob mid song if the speed isnt just right.

Another thing ive noticed is that the super phasers never get messed with while on stage for odd speeds with the phasers and such he seemes to rely on the phase 90 for that.

His rotosphere is used like i said for the chorus in the warmth but also on a fast speed for Idiot box(he used to use his super phaser) and Just a phase.

On a certain shade of green he cranked up the speed on his phase 90 as well (again he used to use his super phaser)

I think changing settings on the super phaser is too much of a hastle during shows so he just implements the phase 90 whenever the settings on the super phasers are non-aplicable.

He messed with the setting on hid delay alot for reverb and delay parts. Theres an odd setting he uses with a super phaser for vitamin.

now for the stuff that puzzled me

He had a line 6 pod on his board?????
he had another pedal to the right of his wah it seemed to be the same shape as a mooger fooger pedal.

and also the rack thing he has on stage is an electrix filter factory.

so if anybody has any notions as to the use of those/what they are feel free to post cause my hands hurt.

did anyone else here get the new live from red rocks dvd/cd. unlike the morning view sessions, you get a LOT more shots of the pedal board. One is really close up from next to his feet in the special features and stays there for about ten seconds. In my opinion, it is the best shot in the history of cinema. You see his phase 90, 2 ph-2's, his cs-3, stage tuner, etc.

dont quote me on it, as i have been wrong before(I apologize to you funkatron as i was wrong about nice to know you and are you inwith the ph-2) But I think he has a whammy on board that i saw when they came to my town in concert.

Also in the dvd , the extended sslw solo contains a close up shot for 5 min of mikey turning the knobs on the electrix filter factory. He gets on his knees however and manipulates knobs on the board as well while he's using the filter factory.

what pedal hes manipulating on the board at the same time i think might be delay. Possibly the dl4 he's got there

__________________
My Latest Purchase: http://homepage.mac.com/miamikike/PhotoAlbum5.html

See thats what I was wondering also, and that is another observation I made as well he played with the filter factory during that solo and for the into to megalomaniac and pistola.

I know he uses a whammy somewhere but like I said I was unable to see if he had one on his board.

I need to get this dvd where can I find it.