Jon Thor from Sigur Ros...violin bow? - Page 2

K/half Noise · #16 02.29.04, 6:07 AM

i've been looking for a violin/cello bow, but they are really expensive and it's been hard to find any of those in 2nd hand. i don't want to spend big bucks on a thing like that...

mikematyus · #17 02.29.04, 7:32 AM

you probably wouldn't want one second hand though, I don't think bows would get better with age like the violin does. but finding a slightly used one would work great, I bet.

Frinky · #18 02.29.04, 10:07 AM

My violin bow was £10 and it's ace.

Violin bows won't get you the Ros sound, really, Zeppelin, F'sure, but not Ros. You will need the cello bow, and you will need stacks of rosin and, the masses of reverbs. It's bloody hard and expensive to get that kind of sound.

As for getting Page live properly - as used with the Les Paul - you will need to mod your bridge so the strings arch too - thats an important part of how he does it. I've had mine arched ever so slightly (sanded, basically) and it works a treat.

Telecashew · #19 02.29.04, 11:47 AM

What about a violin bow on a tele? How would that work out?

Cupid0 · #20 02.29.04, 2:38 PM

really, you should get an alesis reverb unit and just turn the reverb up 100% wet and you'll get the same sound without all the annoyances of a cello bow. All a bow is really good for is looking cool.

PViljoen · #21 02.29.04, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by mikematyus
you probably wouldn't want one second hand though, I don't think bows would get better with age like the violin does. but finding a slightly used one would work great, I bet.

um... an antique Tourte or Pecatte violin bow will go for $100,000 - $200,000 USD....

Frinky · #22 03.01.04, 4:56 AM

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What about a violin bow on a tele? How would that work out?

Vintage style Teles with 3 saddles and a wider radius fretboard are "ok..." If again you're referring to the sound on Led Zeppelin one, both Dazed and Confused and How Many More Times, well, there was a lot of studio engineering going on there in terms of actually getting that sound. Tele pickups really aren't suited to that bowing sound. Also, you'll note, in both cases he's really just playing one string - Upper and lower E.

The LP (or a humbucker carvetop guitar, I guess) produces perfect sounds for bowing - it really does - if it sounds dodgy on one pickup, flick to the next one and it sounds great - I'm not sure why the strings resonate in certian areas causing one pickup to be better than the other for a seemingly random area of the fretboard - like I said, trial and error certianly.

Have you got Jimmy doing Dazed And Confused on the Telecaster but live? Compare that to him doing the Les Paul live - the "bow" sound is much more natural with the Lester, deeper, etc, plus he gets more strings use, doing mini-chords comprising the upper or lower 3 strings, a lot more versatile.

K/half Noise · #23 03.01.04, 1:45 PM

i've tried a violin bow of a friend of mine, and, dunno about zepplins or sigur ros sound but i've made some pretty weird stuff with it lol and lots of feedback

now i hope to try a cello bow...but it gets kinda boring though

thisfall · #24 03.02.04, 6:31 AM

What about an ebow? Would they be alright for swells and washes?

BlueOrb · #25 03.02.04, 10:38 AM

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What about an ebow? Would they be alright for swells and washes?

it won't sound the same at all, go get a cello bow

Cupid0 · #26 03.02.04, 10:38 PM

ebows actually do sound pretty similar. you can play Svefn-G-Englar PERFECTLY with an ebow.

mnemonic · #27 03.05.04, 5:12 PM

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I too have been listening to lots of Sigur Ros lately and all I have to say is Oh...My...God... They make me want to cry because the music so so beatutiful. I could loop an entire song or album and listen to it all day. And as of now, I want to go out and buy a violin bow.

I couldn't agree more. I listen to ( ) while laying in bed just thinking. And "Starlafur" and Untitled #1 are two of the most beauitful things I've ever heard.

pianoguitar · #28 03.10.04, 9:32 PM

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Is it true that he uses a violin bow for their guitar sounds? I heard that from someone last night, and it would make a lot of sense. That gorgeous....wash of distorted reverb makes me shiver...literally. Especially the 2nd song off Good Start (Agaetis Byjurn).

PS- Sorry for so many posts about post-rock guitar, It's just that I've been so obssesed with that kind of music lately. I have a feeling that it won't be a passing trend either.

Hey! way to go with the '76 twin!! Canada rocks- it's my drummer's home. I think I'll visit him there this summer.