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check this out, all you need to know...

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-but...e-dream-3.html

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Quick answer

Red Lace Sensor on bridge on a strat w/maple neck
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Big Muff NYC (3rd version, the one like the current but w/o led)
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Marshall JCM800 with KT88 power tubes (gain at 1 master vol at 10)
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layer like 30 tracks of this
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Main Siamese Dream fuzz

That should take u near.


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Blue Lace Sensor in neck is also important, since he uses the neck pickup like 80% of the time.

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Yep, dont know how I miss that one.

However, the recent memories of Corgan recall the actual recording as the Red one so I think it was post EQ'ed. Or maybe he just forget.

But hey lets be honest, a good big muff already takes you at like 80% to SD sound.

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I was really wondering if he used single coils since my humbuckers sound much more like Corgan the single coils.

I've tried runnging my Big Muff into the gain channel with the gain at zero, but it just sounds really stupid and flat. Am I missing something?

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You need to have the master cranked, or another way is to skip the preamp completely and run it: guitar->muff->FX loop return

Also keeping in mind that Lace sensors don't really sound like single coils, and all of this is layered to the point of redundancy.

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For Gish tones is all about single coils

but for SD is Red & Blue Lace Sensors, both being humbucker emulation pu's

what amp are u using?

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Clean amp + lotsa bass headroom + opamp muff = siamese dream.

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I read on a website (that seems to have pretty accurate info) that Billy used a Micro Synth on the album as well. I think he said he used it on lead tones, would that make sense and what would it do to the tone? I've listened to sound samples of it, and it does not sound like Siamese Dream.

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From what I can glean from the guitar tab book (the transcripts from Guitar World interviews) the Micro Synth was used as an alternative distortion to give a different fuzz tone from the Big Muff. Apparently Billy liked the effect the VCOs gave (he called it a "supersonic" sound that "...sounds like KKKCCCHHHH!'" apparently). The end of Cherub Rock has a strange rasping sputter which is allegedly caused by the Micro Synth's built-in noise gate cutting off the sound.

The intro to Hummer has a raspy, less thick fuzz coming in at one point, which I assumed was the Micro Synth in distortion+octave-up mode too.

I'll admit I've been tempted to buy one of those things but it's struck me as too bulky and pricey unless I could find a regular use for it.

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The MS is awesome. It does all that and more. It is my 'secret' weapon!

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There is a lot of erroneous data out there. I know I've heard a Micro Synth on some of their b-sides, and esp. their Cars cover on the Aeroplane Flies High Box set. And of course on Starla. Plus the Fender Blender, which you can hear mixed in the distortion on Quiet.

What he might have done is mixed the Micro Synth in with the sound, but I doubt that he ran it with 100% saturation on all the solos.

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He did use a micro synth on siamese dream!

solo on Mayonaise
little octave thing on Quiet

at least on those, the layering thing could be possible, i mean there are a lot of guitar overdub there so a couple tracks of microsynth could have passed unnoticed

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I've been able to get the phase-shifted Mayo solo sound out of my Small Stone; the distorted sound is neither Muff nor Rat so it wouldn't surprise me if the MS was used there too.

The weird feedback on Quiet's solo was thanks to a wah pedal...Corgan mentions something about how the feedback through the guitar and wah was coming from the amp head rather than the speaker cab, which was in another room. I never understood how that could possibly work!

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