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Why would you go Bigsby when a Floyd Rose is a superior tremolo system in every regard?
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Why would you go Bigsby when a Floyd Rose is a superior tremolo system in every regard?
I'm not defending a Bigsby, but I have yet to see an FR on a hollowbody! I don't use a FR because I got sick of messing around with Allen wrenches and the string change drama. I had one with microtuners and a locking nut. I would forget an break a string trying to touch up the tuning at the headstock. A traditional Strat trem works great for me, but will not go on a hollowbody either. If it is tunematic equipped, probably a Stets is the best for that.
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Why would you go Bigsby when a Floyd Rose is a superior tremolo system in every regard?
It's not on the aesthetic regard...
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I'm not defending a Bigsby, but I have yet to see an FR on a hollowbody! I don't use a FR because I got sick of messing around with Allen wrenches and the string change drama. I had one with microtuners and a locking nut. I would forget an break a string trying to touch up the tuning at the headstock. A traditional Strat trem works great for me, but will not go on a hollowbody either.

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And here I am, still wondering why some people exist... That's just sad, really.
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And here I am, still wondering why some people exist... That's just sad, really.
You mean evolution. Same could be said about the "radical" shapes of the Explorer and V back in the 50's...... The 8 string guitar was pioneered by a country musician in the late 60's..... And now, I'm sure you can find an 8 string hollowbody.

Bigsby is a dated technology, and the beauty is, there's so much more out there now, and so many ideas! Who would've thought of a drop in tremlo for a Tune-o-matic bridge with a stop tail piece? Kahler

It's the new ideas, and the always improving of the old ones... My personal opinion is if I wanted a Bigsby, I'd get a tire iron, and mash it between the strings on my bridge.... And some earlier company's have done so before with this type of system, olddawg would know these companies

Not trying to say yes or no, it's just, the options are out there, because one shoe doesn't fit all

and olddawg, Hollowbody with a floyd Quick google search brought this up
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You mean evolution. Same could be said about the "radical" shapes of the Explorer and V back in the 50's...... The 8 string guitar was pioneered by a country musician in the late 60's..... And now, I'm sure you can find an 8 string hollowbody.

Bigsby is a dated technology, and the beauty is, there's so much more out there now, and so many ideas! Who would've thought of a drop in tremlo for a Tune-o-matic bridge with a stop tail piece? Kahler

It's the new ideas, and the always improving of the old ones... My personal opinion is if I wanted a Bigsby, I'd get a tire iron, and mash it between the strings on my bridge.... And some earlier company's have done so before with this type of system, olddawg would know these companies

Not trying to say yes or no, it's just, the options are out there, because one shoe doesn't fit all

and olddawg, Hollowbody with a floyd Quick google search brought this up
I was writing a huge-ass response when I realized I'm a prejudiced douche. I should just shut up and play my guitar...
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That's a simi-hollowbody for sure. Bet it has a big block down the middle to accept a rout.
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I was writing a huge-ass response when I realized I'm a prejudiced douche. I should just shut up and play my guitar...
Post it anyway! All comedy gold to me.
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I was writing a huge-ass response when I realized I'm a prejudiced douche. I should just shut up and play my guitar...
Sames as NoFroBro, I am quite enjoying this debate, we're all expressing our opinions

olddawg, I've played the old 60's silvertones, a full hollowbody..... not my thing to say the least, I'd rather the 1457 or a Danelectro.... Bubblewrap with neck heavy just complicates things.... Cool idea acoustic, but with pickups, Bigsby is the only way to counteract that weight.... Probably why they were added. As stated, a "boat anchor". Semi hollow and full hollow bodied electrics are like comparing acoustics to electrics at that point, at least my perspective.
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Cool idea acoustic, but with pickups, Bigsby is the only way to counteract that weight.... Probably why they were added. As stated, a "boat anchor".

You know this is actually another reason I am considering going with the Bigsby. As a person who primarily plays strats with a bit of heft to them the lightweight nature of the guitar throws me. I wouldn't say the guitar is neck heavy but I do feel a bit of added weight would make it feel more comfortable. Or at least more secure/stationary when I am playing it.
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Cool idea acoustic, but with pickups, Bigsby is the only way to counteract that weight.... Probably why they were added. As stated, a "boat anchor".

You know this is actually another reason I am considering going with the Bigsby. As a person who primarily plays strats with a bit of heft to them the lightweight nature of the guitar throws me. I wouldn't say the guitar is neck heavy but I do feel a bit of added weight would make it feel more comfortable. Or at least more secure/stationary when I am playing it.
Maybe try a lead weight or a horse shoe? At least that won't ruin your tuning!
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To add another part of the debate, I blocked in all my tremolos after deciding that I already screwed up my tuning enough with how heavy I bend and play. After watching Billy Corgan make it sound like his strat has a tremolo with his unbends and just good playing I decided it wasn't necessary.

Not to say that guys who use tremolos are worse players, so many guitarists have used the device to take their playing to the special places that make me love them, but I think that with enough practice and a hardtail I can make the sounds I want.
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I kind of dig the way Paul Gilbert uses a flanger to simulate floyd dives on his stoptail guitars.

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I kind of dig the way Paul Gilbert uses a flanger to simulate floyd dives on his stoptail guitars.

Airplane Flanger
A Digitech Whammy can do this kind of trick too.

And he went from an Edge trem, to a hardtail bridge, if you look at his original RG with the painted "f-holes" you'll see where they had to fill in with wood to put a hardtail bridge on it.
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