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Reliability of a repaired guitar

I'm looking at some Les paul's across the various Guitar Center's close to me, one has a Studio Deluxe that fell and broke the headstock. They repaired it professionally etc. but they've trimmed alot off the price.

My question is, will this headstock repair rob the guitar of sustain? I know this kind of break is common in Les Paul's, so I imagine all those guitars running around can't be that terrible compared to a prestine one. I'm interested in the experience any one on here has had.
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Old 09.03.11, 12:47 PM
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I'm looking at some Les paul's across the various Guitar Center's close to me, one has a Studio Deluxe that fell and broke the headstock. They repaired it professionally etc. but they've trimmed alot off the price.

My question is, will this headstock repair rob the guitar of sustain? I know this kind of break is common in Les Paul's, so I imagine all those guitars running around can't be that terrible compared to a prestine one. I'm interested in the experience any one on here has had.
It really depends on where the break was. If it is not under the nut or fret board it should be fine. Many touring Lps have had a headstock repair.
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Even if the crack is under the nut and/or fret board a reasonable check for the quality of a repair is whether there is any sign what-so-ever of where the break is. There are, of course, the occassional cases where a bad repair has been concealled by exceptionally good finishing but considering that the skill required to get a really great finish vastly exceeds that required to get a really sound mechanical repair it's still a decent guide.

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There's something about les paul's that just attract neck damage. Some repairs using fibreglass can make the break the strongest part of the guitar. But always check it out - neck damage can be fatal.
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Even if the crack is under the nut and/or fret board a reasonable check for the quality of a repair is whether there is any sign what-so-ever of where the break is. There are, of course, the occassional cases where a bad repair has been concealled by exceptionally good finishing but considering that the skill required to get a really great finish vastly exceeds that required to get a really sound mechanical repair it's still a decent guide.

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I will defininantly be playing this, and many other of the Les Pauls and SGs in the store.
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Only to realize those pedals were hooked up to the bass!
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The standard line for a neck repair is "now stronger than it was before." I don't know how true it is, but I've heard it a billion times. This may be of interest, seeing as how that guitar has been around the universe a couple dozen times by now.
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I had an Epi Genesis Deluxe, and they are well-known for their headstock breakability. The thing played and sounded flawless, although you could see where the break was if you looked hard enough.

By the way, there's one on eBay right now, with "upgraded" Gibson pickups--I don't know why, as the original pickups were Gibson, but whatever... It's a great LP-style guitar, whose only downside is neck diving.
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I -had- an acoustic that had gotten the neck ripped in half - broke off at the body and split from there to 12-th fret.

My, at the time, poor repair skills with standard 2-ton wood glue (I was young. Well, Younger) still gave me a guitar that sounded decent. (It was Jay Turser, so it wasn't the GREATEST THING to begin with.)

It -can- be fatal to the tone, but Not always, just be hopeful.
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Well, turns out the break was a little below the two e string tuning pegs, so away from where it would damage the sustain. Played it next to a couple other flawless LPs, no real difference but I love the look of this Cherry finish and the feel was great, slimmer profile (for Gibsons) and really smooth feeling finish. I'm spend some more time with it (and get pictures up soon along with the rest of my rig) and deciode if i want to keep the pickups or swap them.
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