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Old 09.06.11, 1:56 AM
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Would it be an E-bow creating this sustained sound?

Hi, I'm wondering if it's an ebow creating this long sustained notes. There was another track, called Sinfony, that's just guitar that I was looking for, for reference, but there doesn't seem to be a copy of it on youtube. From 3:10 onward the notes just hold and ring out till the end

Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins - Ascendo - YouTube
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Most probably. Corgan's been known to use an E-bow on a number of songs, although he sometimes utilises feedback to get sustaining droney notes. The feedback technique often takes a lot of repeated takes to get the right tone and pitch though, so that's usually what he does in the studio. An E-bow gives more consistent results and easier to use, especially live.

The intermission bit of Soma allegedly uses multiple overdubs of E-bowed acoustic guitars!

That's a cool song though. I kinda wish he did that sort of experimental stuff more often.
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In an interview he said "that noisy little thing on the beginning of Earphoria" was all Ebow. I guess he was refering to Sinfony. The track you linked to sounds like a combination of ebow'd guitars and feedback guitars, kind of different voices.
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There's ebows all over SP stuff - check out Stand inside your love for a good example.
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That's a cool song though. I kinda wish he did that sort of experimental stuff more often.
That's for sure. Hopefully he gets his groove back where the great stuff just flows like it used to.
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That track was actually on a cassette tape that came with my Ebow when I bought it. There were lessons on how to use it and then tracks by profeshionals, that was one of the tracks.
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Slightly OT :


. . . has anyone ever tried an EHX FREEZE for sustained note holding ?
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That track was actually on a cassette tape that came with my Ebow when I bought it. There were lessons on how to use it and then tracks by profeshionals, that was one of the tracks.
Huh, that's cool. Wonder if he wrote it just for that, then.
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. . . has anyone ever tried an EHX FREEZE for sustained note holding ?
not to hi-jack with a long answer: yes. and it kills.


to OP, that does indeed sound like eBow to my ears. I think Mmason's story kinda seals it, though.
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hi jack, with a long answer: yes. and it kills.
Hi Phil - thanx !

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That is EBow, but he also uses a Sustainer pickup a lot as well. Adore-era is more a mix of both depending on the part.
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yep. thats e-bow.

adore is full of it too. very elegantly and smooth used btw, check Daphne Descends
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Corgan's been known to use an E-bow on a number of songs
Nope. It was always James Iha.
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Nope. It was always James Iha.
I don't mean to be pedantic or argumentative, but I think you're mistaken. I've never read an interview with Billy *anywhere* that states he's never used one whenever they're discussed in interviews. I always assumed that Billy and James used each other's gear quite often so it's a fair bet both of them used E-bows on various tracks. Unless the title of the linked vid in this thread's original post is mistaken!
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I don't mean to be pedantic or argumentative, but I think you're mistaken. I've never read an interview with Billy *anywhere* that states he's never used one whenever they're discussed in interviews. I always assumed that Billy and James used each other's gear quite often so it's a fair bet both of them used E-bows on various tracks. Unless the title of the linked vid in this thread's original post is mistaken!
ummm maybe in studio, but in live context i've never seen corgan with an ebow, thats always iha duttie...
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