Best Produced Metal Record - Page 5

Ghettometalhead · #61 06.17.05, 10:47 AM

I love the way that Adam D. from Killswitch's records sound. The End of Heratache was really explosive sounding and very emotive.Seasons by Sevendust is an AMAZING sounding record with some of the most diverse beefy sones I have ever heard on a record.And finally and your all gonna hate me for this Korn's Untouchables. I know alot of you guys hate them but that record was the best sounding album a band with two detuned seven string players (NOT THE BEST SONGS FOR ALL YOU MESSHUGAH JOHNSON RIDERS OUT THERE).Buy only the basis of production those are the ones ill go with

xirith · #62 06.18.05, 4:42 PM

i have to say im surprised about people on some of this. a lot of votes for and justice for all. i just dont get it. that albums basicly a what not to do when making a album. the sound on it is horrid. talk about amaturish mid scooping.

DavyBoy721 · #63 06.18.05, 7:03 PM

isn't it debatable if there's any bass on justice??? or was that ride the lightning or somethin?

mcflip · #64 06.18.05, 8:23 PM

I'll have to join the legions of "nays" with regards to And Justice for All. That record has always sounded overproduced (but not in a good way) to me. Kicks with that much attack always sound more distracting than anything else.

I'll take the comparative muddiness of Master of Puppets over it anyday.

The Black Album sounds nearly perfect, but if either of their previous records had the same sounds and mix, it would have sounded like a mess. Everything on that record sounds so huge, but if you were to play fast with that much reverb on the drums and all, it would sound terrible.

What's most infuriating about that band is that in theory having them get a raw recording and start playing thrash again should have been the best thing ever to happen. I guess that's what happens when you're an uninspired band spending months to knowingly create a "raw" record with endless resources.

As for Slayer, I dig them and all, but their recordings have always been way too muddy.

Some of my favorite productions on heavy (metal or not) records have already been mentioned here. Deftones - White Pony, Tool - Aenima, At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul, etc.

A couple others that deserve mention:
Refused - Shape of Punk to Come (Yeah, it's a hardcore record, but the tones, mix, production and most importantly songs on that record are flawless. The same people that did it also did Poison the Well - You Come Before You and it sounds great as well.)
Isis - Oceanic

I also listened to Necrophagist - Epitaph and as far as having a balance of clean and heavy, it sounds really good.

GuitarZeroDude7 · #65 06.18.05, 9:51 PM

there's also every Black Label Society album from 1919 Eternal onward. Sonic Brew is pretty raw sounding and Stronger Than Death always sounded way too muddy for me. and Alcohol Fueled Brewtallity Live + 5 isn't that great of a live album (the crowd is barely audible and certain things don't sit well in the mix on certain songs)

also, i think a nod should go towards almost any album Devin Townsend has produced. most of those albums sound amazing. the only album that he's produced that doesn't sound amazing is Lamb Of God's "As The Palaces Burn" and that's because he made it sound raw on purpose to make the rawness of the music shine through or something like that (then again, Lamb Of God hasn't been known to have strong production to begin with).

GuitarZeroDude7 · #66 06.18.05, 9:54 PM

also, i never thought the production on Metallica's black album was that great. it's sounds too slick and dated by today's standards. that's why i like Load's production so much. it's just perfect for the album, and it doesn't sound dated.

and why i'm thinking of it... Fear Factory's "Demanufacture" album has excellent production on it. i think it has the best production out of any of their albums.

fatgraymatt · #67 06.18.05, 10:55 PM

Hey GuitarZeroDude7, how do you like the JB pickup in your ESP? Did you put it in yourself? I didn't think ESP guitars came with JB's.

thefobia · #68 06.19.05, 3:49 PM

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Originally posted by Talent?!
The older version has a silver cover, the newer has a dark grey one and bonus tracks (bullprick, alternate version of vortex and spanish version of trust).

The guitars and vocals had been redone, so they sit differently in the mix (you'd have to hear it, it's hard to describe with my limited musical vocabulary).

Really? Wow!

Music Zone were selling off the silver version for £4.99 a year or so ago, and I snapped it up. It'd be interesting to hear the newer version, but I'm too cheap to buy essentially the same album again...

Talent?! · #69 06.19.05, 3:50 PM

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Originally posted by thefobia
Really? Wow!

Music Zone were selling off the silver version for £4.99 a year or so ago, and I snapped it up. It'd be interesting to hear the newer version, but I'm too cheap to buy essentially the same album again...

I only bought it cos my old one got stolen

and I didn't know the new version was different until I heard it.

falcone · #70 06.19.05, 4:22 PM

Lateralus by TOOL is near perfection in my opinion

DavyBoy721 · #71 06.19.05, 4:33 PM

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Originally posted by falcone
Lateralus by TOOL is near perfection in my opinion

+1

I'd have to agree with you there. But i think i personally like Ænima a tad bit better.

GuitarZeroDude7 · #72 06.19.05, 8:17 PM

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Originally posted by fatgraymatt
Hey GuitarZeroDude7, how do you like the JB pickup in your ESP? Did you put it in yourself? I didn't think ESP guitars came with JB's.

i think it's an alright modern rock/hard rock pickup. for metal, i'd go with something a bit more crunch to it. and i didn't put in the JB myself. i had help from my dad.

fatgraymatt · #73 06.19.05, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by GuitarZeroDude7
i think it's an alright modern rock/hard rock pickup. for metal, i'd go with something a bit more crunch to it. and i didn't put in the JB myself. i had help from my dad.

I just meant to ask if the guitar came with the JB or if you chose it. Not too many guys use it for heavy music but I like it, I have a Les Paul with a JB in the bridge. Les Pauls tend to be a little dark-sounding, so the JB brightens it up nicely. It's a little bit mid-heavy for most metal players but I find it cuts through a full-band mix better than most humbuckers, even the Dimarzio PAF Pro's that are in my other main guitar. I think it's much better than the 500T that came stock in the LP. The only famous metal player that I know of that uses it is Dave Mustaine.

Dan the Man · #74 06.20.05, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by Ghettometalhead
And finally and your all gonna hate me for this Korn's Untouchables. I know alot of you guys hate them but that record was the best sounding album a band with two detuned seven string players (NOT THE BEST SONGS FOR ALL YOU MESSHUGAH JOHNSON RIDERS OUT THERE).Buy only the basis of production those are the ones ill go with

Untouchables sounds awesome. I don't know why anyone would rip on the production because it's the lyrics that most people hate. The thing I liked about that record is that it sounds so much more spacious than the average metal CD (or basically the average CD) these days. The reverb is gigantic, so you feel like the music is coming from the belly of a monster instead of a house cat's mouth. More music should be produced that way; it stands out immediately.

GuitarZeroDude7 · #75 06.20.05, 7:52 PM

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Originally posted by Dan the Man
Untouchables sounds awesome. I don't know why anyone would rip on the production because it's the lyrics that most people hate. The thing I liked about that record is that it sounds so much more spacious than the average metal CD (or basically the average CD) these days. The reverb is gigantic, so you feel like the music is coming from the belly of a monster instead of a house cat's mouth. More music should be produced that way; it stands out immediately.

i'll admit, Korn is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. from what i've heard from that album, it sounds amazing production wise (and catchy songs too) the guitars on "Here To Stay" sound so huge and monsterous. also "Thoughtless" is such a great sounding Korn song. it's their best song IMO. the production is amazing. the song itself is well written. the only thing holding it back is the lyrics. i can even tolerate Fieldy's bass!

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