I ment too....I forgot.

Now that you have I will say it is a great pedal.

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ok ive heard a lot about this pedal lately on here. one question: is the echo actually analog, or just trying to sound like analog (like the DL-4)?

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It is digital, it actually sounds LIKE analog. Ibanez learned how to do it with the echomachine and prefected it with that pedal. Have a listen to it a www.ibanez.com

The endless feedabck is a nice oscillation sound.

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I will say this, Korn can use there effects better then anyone else in nu-metal(deftones are to argued about). I would like the hear munky ****ing around at home with all of his stuff. Apperently he is a big brian eno fan.....(according to someone else on this board).

I'd get the Ibanez and **** the connections. You have a DD-2 and Tom Morello uses one, you have a CE-2 and half the '80's buttrockers used them, hell, you have a DL-4 and Traci Gunn's of LA Guns uses them now(along with everyone and there grandmothers). Grab a Ibanez and loss the asthetic idea.

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Fiveways said better what I was going to. Mark from Dredg uses (or used, until they were stolen) 2 DE7s.. and he has great tone in his not-so-mainstream music.

About the FL9.. things would be cheaper just to buy the old one. The new one is like 130 bucks-ish (for now anyway).. and you can easily (well... you could anyway, Ive been out of the hunt for some time now. I only paid 45.. off ebay) find the 'true' 9 for under 100. It's a heckuvva pedal.. self oscillates if you tweak it a little. No extreme jet-plane sounds though, but it can go from subtle to quite corny 80's stuff... with great sounds in between.

Buy one, and if you dont like it, sell it again, there's a hefty demand for them. As long as being in Canada wont pose a problem.. which you would know much better than me. (all money I said was US.. sorry, didnt notice the location at first)

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Ahahahaha. Not to mention (just from doing a quick check on the site) that the guy from Godsmack uses his EQ and tremolo, and the guy from Disturbed has the Sonic Maximizer. If you care about that sort of thing, sharing gear with them would be far worse than using something Korn has (as they're derivitive crap without the weird noises that can redeem Korn for a few seconds here and there). The biggest thing I've learned from Shane in my time here is to drop any sort of misconceptions I've had about a pedal or brand sucking because a band I don't like uses it, and it's good advice. Get the DE-7 and don't look back.

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Fender Jazzmaster/Univox Rickenbacker 360-12 copy/reissue Danelectro U2 -> Zoom Ultra Fuzz, Boss TU-2, Ibanez DE-7, Digitech PDS 2000, Boss DD-20 -> Fender Ultimate Stereo Chorus/Gibson Discoverer

A few synth sounds. I don;t know how much use you would have for them as they don't really "draw" people in.

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Fiveways (or anyone else in the know), is there a substantial difference between the Yamaha FX-500 and the FX-500B? I might be able to score the 500B for a good price (<$100), and I was wondering if it was worth it. Thanks in advance.

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Isn't the 500B the bass version of the FX-500?

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Is it? Good to know. Any significant differences between the two? I haven't found much on it. Does it have the same sounds?

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I don't know. I've never seen or played with a 500B. I think it is probably designed for lower frequencies, so I don't know how it will sound.

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Thanks for this list, very handy to know this sort of thing if I ever come across one. I have my heart set on an RDS 7.6 now, I want to get back into the ambient noise creation I used to do when I had a GT-3 over a year ago. It's such a release from playing rock and roll.

Shane here's a question for you: how did you manage to get a minor chord sound of 3 different notes or so in your PDS drone clip, is it all done by the PDS or were there more trick involved? It sounds awesome and I'd love to be able to pull that sort of thing off.

I picked up the FX-500B and I'm working it into my rig. I get good distortions, delay, chorus, phaser, etc. from my Korg AX1000G so I'll be primarily using the FX-500B for its reverbs. Once you bypass the EQ it's almost identical to the FX-500. I love the Symphony and the Reverse and Voice Reverb patches, not so happy with the delay sounds (typical digidelay; my Korg sounds much better). Any other FX-500 users out there? Any problems I should keep an eye out for?

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Watch out for the power button getting weird. I have to push it in and turn it for my unit to stay on. I just leave it on and use a power strip to power down my rack.

Also, the jacks are very fragile, be very gentle with them or else you'll be soldering them back to the PCB.

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There's not a whole lot I don't like besides the problems I've mentioned. I don't use the distortions or EQs so those don't bother me. Everything else is really nice. I mainly just use the reverbs and symphonic and touches of delay. It definitely sounds good.

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