dont wanna spend more than £85
i seen some beyer one that soudn about right bit cant remeber the model

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What do you plan on using them for?

Headphones are a useful tool but I wouldn't rate them as essential and the quality/isolation/comfort/cost ratio can be very difficult to get right without knowing what you want to use them for.

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there for recording at home and listening to music.

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I'm a big fan of the AKG headphones try the k141 mkII or the 171's.

Also the the Sennheiser HD280's are very nice.

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Good exchange with Cham Clowder.

Sennheiser HD 215's are what I have and although advertised as DJ headphones they are great, maybe a little bass boost on them but I put that down to them being headphones and you'd get that with most of them.

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i dont really want any extra boost so i know the exact sound im gettin when recording

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Well you'll get that with any headphones, you can lessen it with things like open cans and obviously outer ear headphones, but due to how close they are to your ears you get a bass boost.

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This is the answer I was looking for when I asked the question. Headphones are NOT the tool for this job.

You cannot do any 'listening' task using headphones. The Bass proximity effect is too random and you'll have a recording one day that has way too much bass and the next day way too little.

If you are contemplating using them to mix/eq/master then spend the money on a set of cheap monitors. There are very decent ones out there for >50 quid.

The role that headphones have in a studio are to allow for isolation when parts are being overdubbed, and (rarely, especially these days with digital) to assist in adjusting a single track in a big mix.

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I have some Behringer MS16 Monitors and for the price I got them they are fantastic, the amp can be sensitive and clip if the signal out of my comp is too hot but bar that the sound quality is great and they have some real volume on.

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The AKG k240 MKII headphones are what I have and provide a reasonably flat sounding experience. By no means are the flat response technically but they are not over coloured or to bassy. Nor are they exhausting to listen to for hours on end. They are great for late night mixing or focusing on positioning tracks within the mix / within a stereo image.

However I will not deny having a cheap pair of monitors such as the M-audio AV40's will give you some great mileage towards good and better mixes. I find myself doing equal time on both headphones and monitors, as repeating the same part over and over and over can get very annoying for room mates and more annoying for you when you're trying to get something right and they won't shut the hell up about you playing the same 3 seconds on repeat.

For mixing purposes look for open back head phones to reduce bass response.

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Good exchange with Cham Clowder.

if you havent looked at them already, grado makes a few great sounding sets for under 100 bucks that kick the **** out of anything else until you hit 300 dollars or so

hmmm.. i read in a SOS article that headphones can sometimes be useful, since most most mixing locations will have crap acoustics... but then loadsa music is now listened to on headphones..

or is this still better than the artificial imaging from headphones? (for the record, i mainly mix on monitors, but use headphones as a reference point)

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Would you say your mixing location has crap acoustics?

The acoustics in a studio would have to be abysmal before headphones would be a choice of any serious engineer, and a serious engineer would probably rather fix the abysmal acoustics than rely on headphones to produce anything that was going to carry their name. I use a crappy cassette player, my i-river and the CD deck in my car as reference points for mixing, I don't however use them as my mixing suite. Link the article if you can.

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Honestly, I don't think the acoustics in my room are that bad at all, but then It's probably not a "perfect" environment at all..

here's two articles..

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb0...s/qa0206_5.htm

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr0...s/qa0408_4.htm

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