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Old 08.30.06, 3:18 PM
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Angry Soldering Problems! ARRGH!!

HI,

I've got a supposededly 100 watt soldering gun, but I can't get the tone pot hot enough to accept the solder! It gets pretty damn warm in my hand, though! Anyone have any soldering tricks to get this puppy done?? Step by step would be great for a relative newbie.

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Step one:

Delete the double post.

Step two:

get a lower wattage solder gun, like 35 watts. and a clamp/vise of some sort.

Step three, four, etc.

keep the tip tinned and clean. Clean it by keeping a wet sponge handy. Add a dab of solder to each part, heat each part simultaneously and touch the solder to the connection.
You'll probably need three or four hands, hence the vise.

Keep that tip clean and tinned, it goes a long way to a successful solder session.
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Pardon my ignorance, but how will a lower wattage iron solve the problem??
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Pardon my ignorance, but how will a lower wattage iron solve the problem??
100 watts is way too hot for guitar/pedal application and soldering guns aren't appropriate either - they are used for plumbing if I'm not mistaken.

A soldering iron on the other hand should be between 35 and 50 watts should be fine. I have an adjustable 50 watt iron which I would reccomend for your purpose
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Thanks for the advice! I bought a 30W iron and new resin core solder and it worked like a dream from the first try! My solder joints look great, thank to you. Now if I can only repair the ground problem!
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Thanks for the advice! I bought a 30W iron and new resin core solder and it worked like a dream from the first try! My solder joints look great, thank to you. Now if I can only repair the ground problem!
You're welcome!

What's your ground problem?
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I've got an '83 American Standard Tele - I don't know how I ended up in the Bass Repair forum - with a TBX Tone control. I just bought vintage noiseless PUs for it and I can't find a wiring diagram that eliminates the ground hum. The hum stops when I touch the volume or tone posts. I've obviously got the thing wired incorrectly. I removed the stranded ground wire on the advice of a user on another Forum. He said the ground wire was not needed for the noiseless PUs since they only have a black and yellow wire. So, I think I've been steered the wrong way and I'd like to get my tele working again!!

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Dave,

I'm glad to see you found some of the other threads

You need that ground wire.

Is it still connected to the pickup? If it is, just solder it to the tone pot or another ground.

If it's not connected anymore, solder it back to where you took it off and solder it to ground.

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this one should work for you.
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Thanks, Ron,

The ground that I removed was the weaved one that is connected to the control switch. Since the neck and bridge VN PUs only have 2 wires - black, yellow - I'm a bit stymied as to whether the wire I removed should be attached to the volume pot. To make matters worse, I think I may have fried either the capacitor, the resistor, or the TBX tone control!! I think at the very least I'll have to replace the tone control and the accompanying resistor and capacitor, as I'm getting all the noise when I turn it to the treble position and very little in the bass position. Is there a way I can post a low res pic of my wiring and let you and other forum users take a look at it?

Thanks again for your help thus far!
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Since when do you need a resistor in any part of the guitar's wiring?? Isn't all you need a capacitor to filter out the highs, the amount varied by the tone pot?
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You can have a cap and resistor wired in series to eliminate the dullness of the guitar when you turn the volume pot, it is usually refered to as a treble bleed mod; http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/...ed-web_418.jpg

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All I can tell you is that's how the TBX tone control is wired, with both a cap and a resistor!
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All I can tell you is that's how the TBX tone control is wired, with both a cap and a resistor!
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You can have a cap and resistor wired in series to eliminate the dullness of the guitar when you turn the volume pot, it is usually refered to as a treble bleed mod; http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/...ed-web_418.jpg

Oh, ok. From the picture though, it looks like they're wired in parallel.

How much does adding the resistor affect the tone? Does it only affect it when the volume is turned down?
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the tbx tone control is not wired as in the pic. it's essentially a double stacked pot with 6 lugs.
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