Fripp's New Standard Tuning

[Me on crack]

Low to high: CGDAEG

Ok so what do you think? I know its old by now, its basically a cello-plus-2-strings tuning but its quite interesting.

[Uome]

Crafty guitarists do always eat good.

I respect mr. Fripp for trying stuff like this, I personally lack the guts to try it out, but I don't really see the point apart from making bigger intervals easier.

Have you tried it yourself?

[Me on crack]

Originally Posted by Uome

Crafty guitarists do always eat good.

I respect mr. Fripp for trying stuff like this, I personally lack the guts to try it out, but I don't really see the point apart from making bigger intervals easier.

Have you tried it yourself?

Well, I see it more useful than just bigger intervals, it breaks your habits and take you somewhere else, for chords its so weird, everything you play sound weird but in fact, I think the real thing is master it and make it sound normal.

[Michael Evrard]

I dig altered tunings especially with fingerstyle stuff. I have done some cool things in DADGAD, DADFAD, and DADF#AD. I especially liked DADGAD and found some cool things in my lead work as well as fingerstyle playing.

Recently I found some really great sounds using a Shubb Partial Capo. It covers either strings 4,5,6 or 2,3,4. Using it at the second fret, covering strings 2,3,4, in standard tuning, you get an A Major chord open, but you don't have to re-learn a whole bunch of new chords as any barre chords below the second fret are exactly the same. It comes down to different use of open strings in different keys which is great for fingerstyle. From a composing stand point, you basically can tap into other keys but still utilize more open strings.

If Fripp finds new sounds with his new tuning...awesome.

[Zeppelanoid]

I'm struggling enough as it is, don't need new tunings to make it more difficult.

I'll stick to standard and open tunings, thanks.

[Braunz0]

Originally Posted by Zeppelanoid

I'm struggling enough as it is, don't need new tunings to make it more difficult.

I'll stick to standard and open tunings, thanks.

Well, Fripp's ideology behind it all was that it made more sense. It's tuned in fifths primarily instead of fourths, making it fit in with most of the other stringed instruments. In a way it does make sense, but I'm with you, everything else I know/want to know is mostly based off of tuning the guitar in fourths.

[Uome]

Originally Posted by Me on crack

Well, I see it more useful than just bigger intervals, it breaks your habits and take you somewhere else, for chords its so weird, everything you play sound weird but in fact, I think the real thing is master it and make it sound normal.

I think Fripp wanted to do the opposite and make you think in a entire different way, you know to think out of the box. For sure I wouldn't want to spend my rainy days make some silly tuning sound like it's not silly.

[weezy]

Originally Posted by Me on crack

its basically a cello-plus-2-strings

That's the first thing I thought when I saw it. I imagine that I might find it useful, since cello was my first instrument.

[Me on crack]

Originally Posted by Uome

I think Fripp wanted to do the opposite and make you think in a entire different way, you know to think out of the box. For sure I wouldn't want to spend my rainy days make some silly tuning sound like it's not silly.

That's what Im saying, making sound normal a wacky tuning is thinking outside the box. Silly tuning? why u say that? i dont think its silly at all.

I find more enjoyable spending rainy days warm in bed, with cookies & kisses but thats just me

[Doctor J]

Originally Posted by Uome

I think Fripp wanted to do the opposite and make you think in a entire different way, you know to think out of the box. For sure I wouldn't want to spend my rainy days make some silly tuning sound like it's not silly.

I think he actually has an entire lifestyle empowerment course that's based around the guitar, which is situated around using that tuning. Google/Wikipedia.

[Uome]

Originally Posted by Me on crack

That's what Im saying, making sound normal a wacky tuning is thinking outside the box. Silly tuning? why u say that? i dont think its silly at all.

I find more enjoyable spending rainy days warm in bed, with cookies & kisses but thats just me

Well, for me every other tuning is silly 'cause I'd never use it unless I seriously run out of ideas or more guitars to use it on suddenly appear in my room. I mean, Just learning all my arpeggios and inversions in a standard tuning is difficult enough let alone if you tune every string a different step down, or up. But I'm narrow minded I guess. I never really heard of jazz guitarists changing tunings; the only one I know outside of rock is Albert King.

Oh, now I think of it, Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls has the weirdest tuning I know of, every string is tuned to a b.

Sorry if I sound harsh or something.

[Welladjusted]

Originally Posted by Uome

Oh, now I think of it, Iris by the Goo Goo Dolls has the weirdest tuning I know of, every string is tuned to a b.

I think most Goo Goo Dolls songs are in alternate tunings. I remember reading that messing around with different tunings was how he got around writer's block.

I generally only find that I use alternate tunings if I want to learn a song that's in one. Other than that, I'm in standard or drop-D 90% of the time

[Michael Evrard]

Originally Posted by Zeppelanoid

I'm struggling enough as it is, don't need new tunings to make it more difficult.

I'll stick to standard and open tunings, thanks.

I agree that new tunings can be more confusing, but that is why I really like the partial capo from Shubb. You get an altered tuning sound but you don't need to learn new chords below where you place the capo. The advantage is that you can more easily tap into keys other than D minor (the saddest of all keys), A minor, E minor, C Major, G Major etc.

I guess the bottom line is that if it is not fun...it aint worth doing, especially when it comes to music.

[Doctor J]

Set up my tele for this tuning today. Had to combine two different sets of strings to do it to adjust for the different string tension, but I made it work. I didn't have much time to play around with it before work, so I'll probably do some noodling tonight and tomorrow.

My first impression is that it's definitely interesting. None of my learned left-hand (fretting hand) techniques work, so it should be fun to figure it all out.

[cerebro911]

Wasn't there an actual thing called 'new standard tuning' of CFCGBE. Dropping just the bottom three strings? Soundgarden's song 4th of July is in that tuning. Creepy damn song, but eerily beautiful.

I've always wanted to put a guitar into a dulcimer tuning I once played. BBBG or something along those lines...