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Old 01.16.07, 8:17 AM
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BOSS DS-2 mods?

I could find both the DS-1 and the DS-2 schematics, but they seemed to be very different beasts internally... I wonder if any DS-1 mods would apply -- or even mods of its own.
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Old 01.16.07, 8:56 AM
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So far, I've only found something at diyitalia.it:
R44 - 22k to 1k
R57 - 4k7 to 3k3
R62 - 4k7 to 1k
C28 - 4u7 to 10nF with a 1k resistor in parallel
D8 - 1SS133 to 1N4001
D9 - 1SS133 to 1N4001 + 1N34 in series
D12 - 1SS133 to LED
D15 - 1SS188FM to LED

I'll post a review as soon as I do the mods.
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I'd be interested in this. In all honesty, as my first pedal, i chose the ds2 because it seemed versatile...and john frusciante used it. but it just doesn't sound anywhere near as phat as his .

So mods would be cool (though i wouldn't trust myself). I thought that mode 1 was the same as a ds1?
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They are quite different pedals......... so not all mods that can be done to a DS-1 can be done to a DS-2.........

Never liked the pedal
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Tweak with the diodes:

Replace one of the clipping diodes with a (red) LED or a Ge-diode. You'll get more gain and the pedal will be slightly clearer.

The DS-2 has some nice lead tones but it's too weak for "riff-playing" (with singlecoil pups) IMHO.
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The DS-2 has some nice lead tones but it's too weak for "riff-playing" (with singlecoil pups) IMHO.
What surprises me is how frusciante manages to get such phat tones from it. in an interview he said that the chorus to dani california is played with a ds2 - we had a thread here about that and how it sounded like a BMpi but on a show he stepped on a boss...
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What surprises me is how frusciante manages to get such phat tones from it. in an interview he said that the chorus to dani california is played with a ds2 - we had a thread here about that and how it sounded like a BMpi but on a show he stepped on a boss...
don't forget that one of john's marshalls is basically bass head- i think it makes the sound fatter

btw, what would you recommend as a good rhythm pedal for marshall? ds-2 isn't very good at it
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don't forget that one of john's marshalls is basically bass head- i think it makes the sound fatter

btw, what would you recommend as a good rhythm pedal for marshall? ds-2 isn't very good at it
But that's only half the amp sound since it's run stero with a jubilee head. plus it's just a 200w amp, so it has loads of headroom, but it isn't eq-ed as a bass amp, so it hsould just help with great cleans (which it does). So im just lost as to how that PHAT sound comes about.

I don't play through a marshall, so don't know. What guitar are you using? What marshall are you using. I'm far from an expert on dirt & amps, but am happy to try and help.
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I don't play through a marshall, so don't know. What guitar are you using? What marshall are you using. I'm far from an expert on dirt & amps, but am happy to try and help.
strat 62 reissue into marshall jubilee
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strat 62 reissue into marshall jubilee
my bad...i forgot to sak the next question...what sort of tones are you aiming at? who are your influences tone-wise.
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my bad...i forgot to sak the next question...what sort of tones are you aiming at? who are your influences tone-wise.
it's pretty wide from rock to punk, funk, indie... i bought ds-2 because john frusciante used it and it's great for lead, but when playing rhythm stuff, it is not very concrete, it is big, fat and ugly and it's not 100% clear what i play
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it's pretty wide from rock to punk, funk, indie... i bought ds-2 because john frusciante used it and it's great for lead, but when playing rhythm stuff, it is not very concrete, it is big, fat and ugly and it's not 100% clear what i play
Like i said, i'm no expert, but i'll tell you about the pedals i've messed with...

J&H...the jekyll side is a TS808, the hyde is either a rat or shredmaster semi-clone - I've heard both. the hyde side is meant to be the 'heavy side'. personally, I have the gain low, with a higher volume - it gets nice grit and sounds full and quite clear - i found it got quite weedy sounding with the gain high, but low gain and it's got some nice full bass. I then have the jekyll side set for gain at around 2o clock - nice and dirty.

tech 21 - american woman. this is more known as a lead pedal, but i loved it for rhythm - really PHAT sound, but still fairly clear (i think - i tried it about a year and a half ago). but it has an annoying noise gate that mite bug you eventually.
- the double drive. I can't really remember this, but I want to give it another go at some point.

For frusciante rhythms where things don't have to be heard THAT clearly - ie powerchords - check out a muff. Many of us were convinced he had one going for the chorus of dani california - just put a boost/od in front of it for more bite in the tone, but its a great pedal anywhere.

I've recently read here about the marshall gv2 being a good pedal.

And you'll find the rart recommended all over this site.

Ummm...i don't if that helps any, but it might give you a starting point. If you give more specific sounds that you're after, that could help...good luck.
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ok, thanks. i have big muff too and that's not what i'm looking for for rhythm stuff. i consider getting tonebone hot british as a "dirty marshall channel" and combine with with ds-2 for leads, but i'll try more pedals and i'll see
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ok, thanks. i have big muff too and that's not what i'm looking for for rhythm stuff. i consider getting tonebone hot british as a "dirty marshall channel" and combine with with ds-2 for leads, but i'll try more pedals and i'll see
The big muff'n is meant to be great for that too.
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Old 01.21.07, 4:15 PM
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Mods done, the pedal is much clearer and cuts through pretty well. Chords are real chords, and not a mass of indiscernible noise. It also responds to pick attack pretty well, the same with the volume knob. I'd say it's 60% better. Much more versatile now.

Definitely approved.
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