so i have decided on a loooper:

4 loops, w/ tuner mute, and a feedback loop on one loop.

its going to be like 170, which is kinda a lot of money. so before i go ahead with it, i wanted some fellow geeks opinions.

i really need it for my phase 90 (major tone colouring) and micro synth, that thing is defiantly not true bypass!!! but i think it will help my sound as well, seeing as i run like 8-9 effects. i thought the feedback loop would be a good idea too, for making crazy noises.

i dont have a tuner yet, but i know i have put it off for too long, my band is getting close to our first house party and i want one by then, so i figure the tuner mute is a good idea, is the boss tu-2 the best option as far as pedal tuners?

thanks for your help,

bill

__________________
usa strat w/ sa sa 85 emgs, 50th anniversary strat, gretsch 5120, prs starla, ja90 tele, agile al2000, martin DCXE

mako mak4> mesa 50/50> mako & avatar 412s

fender blues deluxe > whitebox 212

digitech gsp1101 & controller 2

I'd say go for it. I want to order a couple of A/B's from him, but I can't work out the ordering system at all

he seems like a real great guy, i had a couple of questions and he answered them real quick.

the ordering system does seem weird, i would just email him.


i like supporting modders / custom pedal builders, more than the big companies, becuase you are helping a fellow guitar player not some big business whose top executives probably dont even play guitar.


bill

__________________
usa strat w/ sa sa 85 emgs, 50th anniversary strat, gretsch 5120, prs starla, ja90 tele, agile al2000, martin DCXE

mako mak4> mesa 50/50> mako & avatar 412s

fender blues deluxe > whitebox 212

digitech gsp1101 & controller 2

His products are very well made, but if you have any soldering ability and feel like learning some cool stuff, building your own would be WAY cheaper.

__________________
To rewrite is to deceive and lie, and you betray your own thoughts. To rethink the flow and the rhythm, the tumbling out of the words, is a betrayal.

Get it. And the TU-2 does seem to be awsome but if your short on cash (after getting a $170.00 loooper) some of the Korg tuners work great. They run around 20 bucks and since you'll have a tuner out, you could just mount it on your board some place.

Here is the one I use. I;ve never had any problems accept having to unplug my guitar and plug into the tuner but like I said, you'll have the tuner out.

__________________
Mike
Moderator

Rig Thread Updated 6-16-09.

Geeked Rig ((( In Stereo ))). | Here is my pedalboard. | My Rig Thread. | My Rush Clips. |
Rushfans Signature Yamaha. | Wall of amps. |
Lifeson Strat Clone. |

true, but how would i go about building the feedback loop, or tuner mute?

i might as well work for it, it would probably be the same amount of time as building it myself.

plus i wont have to worry about it blowing up onstage.


bill

__________________
usa strat w/ sa sa 85 emgs, 50th anniversary strat, gretsch 5120, prs starla, ja90 tele, agile al2000, martin DCXE

mako mak4> mesa 50/50> mako & avatar 412s

fender blues deluxe > whitebox 212

digitech gsp1101 & controller 2

The parts that are used aren't exactly cheap either. 3dpdt switches are pretty expensive like 5-10USD a piece. That'll add up pretty quick. I'd say just buy it.

EDIT: If your a rack guy, which you seem to be, why not just save up and get a midi loop like the GCX? that'd be a lot easier in the long run as far as switching onstage.

__________________
-Chris Davis


Wants to buy
-nice tube head (maybe mesa something)
Selling (maybe)
Mesa Boogie 50/50 power amp

Looopers are cool, as is Davey.

AND, be sure about how you're going to use it. You can't decide to run some pedals through the loooper early in your rig and some late. They all have to be in series.

I have a 3 looop plus tuner mute, and I end up only using two looops, because of the order that I prefer my pedals, today.

In the future I might just get some single or at most double looopers and mix and match.

__________________
panta rhei

It's definitely way way way cheaper than $170. A tuner out is just an A/B switch. The feedback loop is a simple switch and a pot. The most expensive part is probably the case, and the entire project would cost about $50 or so. Obviously it's not for everyone. I just like to give people options. If you're a musician and willing to do things for yourself, you'll end up saving tons of money in the long run on things like this, A/B switches, channel switchers, patches, etc. If you can afford the Loooper, and don't want to spend the time to build one, then buy it. Simple as that.

__________________
To rewrite is to deceive and lie, and you betray your own thoughts. To rethink the flow and the rhythm, the tumbling out of the words, is a betrayal.

yeah, but as far as buying all the equipment and tools and parts, and then probably messing up something and needing to buy it again. it seems like it would be really close to 170, plus all the hours spent doing this that i could spend at work making 15 bucks an hour.


i guess handmaking guitar pedals is cheaper, but only for certain people.

if you dont have any tools or knowledge, its not for you.

i know what quality equipment is and what good stuff sounds like, and how to use it, just not how to build it.

__________________
usa strat w/ sa sa 85 emgs, 50th anniversary strat, gretsch 5120, prs starla, ja90 tele, agile al2000, martin DCXE

mako mak4> mesa 50/50> mako & avatar 412s

fender blues deluxe > whitebox 212

digitech gsp1101 & controller 2

too many wires. Just get one of those boss power supply master switch things. Then you can turn off all your pedals at once.

That's not what he wants it to do. The PSM5 does'nt have a tuner mute or feedback loop. Also, it only has one loop, and that loop is'nt True Bypass, which is one of the main advantages of a Loooper.

anyone hear of this (or have one)? looks pretty serious. Signal buffer, variable signal booster, 2 effects loops, tuner out, etc etc... it's a "master control station for your rig"

i have a boss tu-2 and it's awesome. I'm thinking of getting the peterson strobe tuner pedal since it's more accurate. You can never have too much accuracy in guitar tuning, i say