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Question Distortion Pedals Vs Amp Distortion

Like a lot of people here I love my stomp boxes, however I cant decide if I should get a beautifully clean valve amp and a handful of distortion pedals or a valve amp with all the distortion I need.

i.e. Fender Twin Reverb Vs ENGL Screamer Combo

I think the advantage of having an amp like the ENGL is that I can switch between 4 channels without having to turn one off and another on. Unlike having stomp boxes where I would have to get a line selector to do this.

What does everybody else do?
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The advantage of pedals is that you can always change the tone of the distortion.
With an amp, you're stuck with however many channels you get.

You can always get a Distortion and an Overdrive and use them together.
You've got 4 different tones right there.
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ive opted for the latter. it works fine for me.

i use a hot rod deluxe, the distortion channels lame, but it has so much headroom clean, that its worth it.

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I find you can really compliment one with the other. I love the sound of my crappy ss amp overdriven but it doesnt cut it enough for lead, while my ds 1 copy is great for lead but is a little thin. So, i take the amp half way up and reduce distortion and hey presto! Its the same sorta theory as why so many people use tube screamers. If you mix the two you can often get the best out of your amp and you've got more options. So in conclusion, my opinion is both!
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i dont know if the delux is the same ... but i have a deville and i like the distortion on it i mean... you can always buy both thats what i did i have a distortion pedal and amp distortion ... the downside to having it on the amp is its not running through with the effects so say your using a delay your going to get a diffrient effect with a stomp box or amp distortion.
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I've yet to find a dirt box that sounds as good as tube distortion.

To me, pedal dirt tends to sound a little harsh and thin. Tube dirt sounds smoother and more dynamic.
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i agree i have tube distortion and i loveee it but like i said the one down side is its not running through the rest of your effects...
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I used to be a channel distortion proponent, but I've started using a Fulldrive along with it so I am a "both" fan now.
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I am a both as well. I like the overdrive on my amp [Peavey Classic 50] but I also like the way it takes a Rat.

Oh and remember...you cant really change the clean tone. So if you need a clean tone...make sure it has a good one, because thats alot less changeable than dirt.
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I've yet to find a dirt box that sounds as good as tube distortion.

To me, pedal dirt tends to sound a little harsh and thin. Tube dirt sounds smoother and more dynamic.
I agree totally.

I only ever use my DS1 to boost the natural overdrive sounds from my amp. With two dirt channels on my amp, this gives me four distortion sounds, all of which seem better to me than pedals on their own.
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i dont know if the delux is the same ... but i have a deville and i like the distortion on it i mean
mi deluxe clicks when you turn the distortion on. also the distortion seems a bit weak.

i was thinking about the 2x12,

oh well

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My amp's only one channel, which can go from clean to slightly overdriven. So for distortion i HAVE TO use a dirt box....
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I just like pedal chains, I dont like effect loops.

Totally irrational but there you go.
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It really depends on my mood. Basically, everything depends on my mood("Diablo 2 is the best ever" and "**** DIABLO 2" are both very common thoughts in my head).

However, with my full rig I use both. I have the lead channel on my Mark II, which really is more of a mid gain sound for me, and then I use a dimed D+ for when I want feedback/noise/other fun stuff.

Amp drive sounds "better", but I find gain boxes to have a bit more personailty. Honest, if some one made an amp and the lead channel sounded like a fender blender, it would be one of the most hated amps on the planet. So, pedals that are harsh sounding have a better market where as amps that are harsh sound have numetal kids.
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I use an ENGL fireball, with an overdrive and a distortion (pedals) before it (see the sig).

Even though the ENGL has a sh*tload of distortion, it's difficult to control volume levels (the fireball doesn't have a volume for distortion, so the volume in relation to the clean channel varies with the volume), and the ENGL distortion...sounds like ENGL , and I wasn't looking to that kind of sound lately.

I got my cooltrons for versatility, and the results are:
1-my amp clean sounds amazing
2-the OD and the distortion sound amazing through my clean amp (but they sound thin through my Marshall VS-100R, which I have at home for practice...)

I hardly use the amp's distortion these days. Even though it's excellent sounding.
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