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Old 09.03.06, 11:06 AM
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I would love someone to have a look at the order I could stick my pedals in, after reading this http://www.stinkfoot.se/andreas/diy/articles/tunout.htm
Im not sure about my Behringer TU100 Tuner coming out of my VP Jn.

My Pedals:

Behringer TU100
Ernie Ball VP Jn
Boss DD-20
Boss BF-3 Flanger
Small Stone
Color Sound Tremelo
Line 6 Verbzilla

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This thead has been VERY informative to me and I appreciate it very much. I understand that the key here is to play around and see what sounds best, but, I do have a couple of questions about placement in the effects chain.

1) First of all, I am running a hybrid of effects pedals and also some rack mounted gear. One thing I *think* I should do and that is minimize the runs of Long cables between the pedal board and the rack. Fewer the better, right?

2) That being said, There are a few items which, if there were some flexibility in placement I could remove some of these extra long wires in the chain and that is:

Noise Gate: How important is the location of this? I have a rack mounted MXR Smart Gate. What would be the effect of placing this before the modulation effects (Flanger/Chorus)? If I can do that, it would remove ONE more LONG cord between rack and pedal board.

Volume Pedal: This is supposed to be located between modulation (Flanger/Chorus) and time based effects (Delay/Echo). What would be the impact if it ran AFTER time based effects?


For your reference here is a PDf of my signal chain:

SignalChain.pdf

Any comments or suggestions are much appreciated.
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Old 09.12.06, 6:31 PM
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The placement of the noise gate generally depends on what you consider 'excess' noise. For example, most people put their noise gates in front of their delay and reverb pedals so as not to cut off any repeats. (Some noise suppressors, such as the ISP noise decimator claim that they can be placed after delays without cutting off repeats, but I haven't tried one out for myself)

As for the volume pedal, a lot of people put them after their time-based effects so they can fade in or make some effects more pronounced.
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TU-2-> Bad Bob Boost-> Dano Overdrive-> Big Muff Pi-> Big Muff Pi (with a Dano fish n chips inside)-> Ibanez TS5-> Behringer Tremolo-> Dano EQ-> MXR script comp-> Traynor YCV40

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What effect does the long signal cords have? If you run between the pedal board and the rack three times, you are talking about 6 LONG cords for back and forth. That must affect the system in some way? Is the degradation of the signal minimal?
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Old 09.12.06, 11:17 PM
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Depends on the cord. High end cables like Planet Waves have little or no signal degradation at longer lengths
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Hi guys - I have to say that this is my first time on this very cool website! I just read throught this entire thread and found it very useful. I do have a question about my rig, as follows:

1990 MIJ '59 Strat reissue
Snarling Dog Blues Bawls Wah (I don't use the overdrive on this pedal, just wah)
Boss DD5 Digital Delay
Line 6 Pod XT
'79 Fender Deluxe reverb amp

I mainly use the Pod for it's amp modelling, that is, I don't really use any of its effects (other than reverb) -- so should it be last in my chain? I do use the amp overdrive on the Pod, but not any of the stompbox models in it. So I guess, in effect, I'm using my Pod as a pre-amp?

Any suggestions as to how to work the Pod in with my pedals would be very much appreciated.

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hi all. noob here.....

this is my setup:

fender fat strat
boss DS 1
EH Big Muff
Vox V847 Wah
Boss CH-1 Super Chorus
VOX AD30VT

I'm really confused about people having the Wah before the distortion. I've tried it and I feel like the wah isn't heard enough with distortion.

Maybe it's my wah?
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Nothing groundbreaking here, although I do put phaser before distortion to get some nice chewy texture out of the PH-2. I like how distortion wreaks havoc on phased chords. Fun!

Dunlop GCB-95 Original Crybaby
MXR Dyna Comp
Boss PH-2
Boss SD-1
Boss DS-1
Boss CH-1
Boss DD-5
Digitech PDS1002 digital delay (two second max with infinite hold feature - wicked!)
Crate V1512 retubed for lower gain
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hey guys,
I just had a couple placement questions for you all. I have a few pedals now, but I ordered about 4 more in tiem for christmas so I knew that may cause havoc for my pedalboard. Here will be my pedal list:

Digitech Whammy 4 Reissue
Vox modded Wah
Boss NS-2 Noise supressor
boss mt-2 metal zone
planet waves chromatic stage tuner
line 6 echo park delay
mxr EVH phase 90
mxr 10 band equalizer

I have a marshall JCM 2000 Series TSL 100 Watt half stack w/ effects loop aswell.

I would appreciate any input on what should go where before i start messing around too much.
Thanks
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Does anyone else prefer wah AFTER distortion?

If i have wah before distortion on my bass, when I wah you can hardly hear anything happening, whereas if it's after the distortion pedal I get a much better sound.

Just my 2p anyway.
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help with pedal order

i have a CryBaby From Hell, a Boss Phase Shifter, A Boss Metal Zone, and a Boss Noise Supressor. what would be the best order for this?
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Squier Strat

Amp:
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Crate Power Block

Effects:
Boss MT-2 Metal Zone
Dunlop Cry Baby From Hell
Boss PH-3 Phase Shifter
Boss NS-2 Noise Supressor

Cables: Monster Angle/Straight x2

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Dean ML From Hell
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order of effects pedals??

hello all. i really could use your help. i have a number of effects pedals and i don't know the best order to put my pedals in, especially to get the best sounds out of them and little or no hum/hiss etc. so please give me some advice. thank you very much.

guitars: mexican fender nashville tele, PRS CE24, old ibanez RG series

i have a mesa boogie dual rectifier (the older one with only 2 channels),
boss gt-6 effects processor which i use for a nicer clean channel (my amp is way to bassy even with the bass rolled off) and reverbs/other effects. i mainly use my single effects pedals for coloring the sound, boosting etc.

for single effects pedals i have:

cry baby wah
mxr phase 90
mxr micro amp
boss delay dm-2
boss super phaser ph-2
boss flanger bf-2
boss distortion ds-1
boss metal zone mt-2
boss blues driver bd-2
boss tremolo tr-2
and i power everything except my boss gt-6 with a "1 spot" 9VDC adapter

i hope someone can help me out, thank you.

josh
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So here's my rig, for those interested...

Stripped Paint and refinished wood oil Ibanez RG 550 with SD pickups - Uber customized Fender Tele >
Morley Bad Horsie 2 (stripped paint and quick bypass modded) > MXR Dyna Comp (block logo) > Boss TU-2 Tuner > Boss 1983 DM2 Delay (with DM3 knobs?) > Boss DS1 (indyguitarist vintage mod, blue light) > Ibanez TS9 reissue (analogman 808 mod) > Ibanez TL5 Tremolo > Boss PH-2 > Modded inside and out Behringer Vintage Tube Overdrive (TS9 clone with JRC chip) > Boss DD-6 Delay > Ibanez DL5 delay (analog and infinite repeats mod by indyguitarist) > (MY AMP) Fender Hot Rod Deluxe w/ preamp volume box.

So the pedals go:
wah, tuner, comp, delay, OD, OD, Trem, Phase, OD, Delay, Delay.

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Custom Built Rodriguez Guitar, Made of Korina with a set in neck and lindy fralin pickups along with a push-pull tone knob to switch the pickups to single coil pickups, amplified through a 59 fender bassman modern day one though. Now i'll list my pedals in order from the guitar to the amp.
Ernie Ball Volume Pedal
Electro Harmonix Tube Screamer
Ibanez Auto-wah
Dunlop wah
Digitech Whammy WH-4
Ibanez tube screamer
Boss DS-1 distortion
Boss OC-3 Octaver
Boss PH-3 Phaser
Boss BF-3 Flanger
Boss DD-6 Digital Delay
Boss TU-2 Tuner
Line 6 FM-4 Filter Modeler
Line 6 MM-4 Modulation Modeler
Boss DD-20 Giga Delay

if you would like to hear it in action check out www.stage.fm/prolificminds or www.myspace.com/prolificminds
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