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perfect pitch.

you know all those little advertisements for "perfect pitch" you see in the back of all those guitar magazines? well, i finally gave in and bought it..listening to the first cd right now. has anyone here done it before? did it work?
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These things have been going since like the 1900s and none of them have any scientific proof to back them up. There's still a whole 'Nurture?/Nature?' argument about it and neither side has been proven so I'd say you've fallen to a clever use of marketing lingo, an almost scam.

Also there's two types of AP, active (where you can sing any note) and passive (where you can just identify them). I guess those self tuition things are focusing on the later whilst trying to convey that they result in the former.
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Back in the day when I was taking lessons my teacher gave me those tapes to listen to. They were kinda boring so I didn't really listen to them. And I still can't really recognize notes.
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I'm not familiar with any tapes, but I've found it much easier to recognize intervals than a note.
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These things have been going since like the 1900s and none of them have any scientific proof to back them up. There's still a whole 'Nurture?/Nature?' argument about it and neither side has been proven so I'd say you've fallen to a clever use of marketing lingo, an almost scam.

Also there's two types of AP, active (where you can sing any note) and passive (where you can just identify them). I guess those self tuition things are focusing on the later whilst trying to convey that they result in the former.
well..with the proof thing..there are two university studies to back it up, and with the two types of AP...theres specific sections of the course for both..it doesnt just cover one. and ive listened to the first cd...and i can already see how this course could actually do it...and theres like 8 cd's...so ill just let you know when im done how it went
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anybody claiming to have perfect pitch better god damn back it up. I think its just a myth, I've never met anybody who actually has it, and I go to berklee (not to be a douche, but if theres nobody there, I'd be hard pressed to find someone elsewhere)
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anybody claiming to have perfect pitch better god damn back it up. I think its just a myth, I've never met anybody who actually has it, and I go to berklee (not to be a douche, but if theres nobody there, I'd be hard pressed to find someone elsewhere)
Theres a guy who lives in the town I'm in who has perfect pitch, he's an "Idiot Savant", i've seen him tune a guitar, took him a little under 10 seconds to do all 6 strings by ear.. perfectly.
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On another note, I'm a skeptic as to which it can be taught(atleast past adolesence.). I think it's more you're born with it or not.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Ma...an_musician%29

^^He has, and he demonstrated it on some show once. Tea Party rule.

And there is no confirmed or recognised studies into it, for your university research to prove it can be taught there will be one that will prove it can't. It's like Freud's Oedipus Complex, it can't be proven yet.

However it is definitely possible to develop relevant pitch which, in my opinion, is all any musician really needs.

The main reason I don't think that it's possible from this CD thing is because if it were then we'd have hundreds of thousands of people with perfect pitch, and we don't, so it's obviously not working for the majority. I refuse to believe that it's some secret or a miracle product that just hasn't caught on yet. Purely snake oil in my eyes, but feel free to prove me wrong.

Also, the correct term is 'autistic savant'. I'm not having a go or anything, just want to keep from offending anyone.
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I have perfect pitch, always have - I was born with it. In fact, I seem to have inherited it from my grandma, who can play the piano and work out songs really easily.

It's something that, if I don't practice, I get worse at, but I can ALWAYS hear intervals and sing them too. When I practice it more, I can 'remember' what notes sound like - I can sing any note on command, any time. I can work out songs I've never heard before just by listening to them (they have to be quite simple usually to do this though - no jazz chords!).

I personally believe it is a talent that one is born with. As for being able to learn it, I can't really comment on that.
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So I'm wondering.... is perfect pitch found only in the 12-tone dominated world of western music, or is the phenomenon found in culture with microtonal music as well?
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So I'm wondering.... is perfect pitch found only in the 12-tone dominated world of western music, or is the phenomenon found in culture with microtonal music as well?
actually i heard something the other day about studies revealing that what was thought to be microtonal in that music was really expression/glissandos/etc....and that there isnt really a microtonal set of notes that is used. not sure how valid the study was, so i could be completely wrong, but that's what ive heard
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anybody claiming to have perfect pitch better god damn back it up. I think its just a myth, I've never met anybody who actually has it, and I go to berklee (not to be a douche, but if theres nobody there, I'd be hard pressed to find someone elsewhere)
A friend of a friend near me can identify ALL the notes played when you just randomly slam your hands into a piano. Which is the most impressive thing in the world. To identify a chord or a single note is one thing, but to pick out individual notes in such a dissonant mess...

i donno if you can play too many for him to recognize or not...never tried with like 5 people pressing notes down or anything.
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A friend of a friend near me can identify ALL the notes played when you just randomly slam your hands into a piano. Which is the most impressive thing in the world. To identify a chord or a single note is one thing, but to pick out individual notes in such a dissonant mess...

i donno if you can play too many for him to recognize or not...never tried with like 5 people pressing notes down or anything.
I saw a documentary about a child prodigy who could do that. they tested him with a whole orchestra simultaneously playing random notes, he got every note. It was amazing
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I saw a documentary about a child prodigy who could do that. they tested him with a whole orchestra simultaneously playing random notes, he got every note. It was amazing
I'd of just names ALL the notes. And made up a few.
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