DCS' Post-Rock/Shoegaze/Ambient Rig - Page 11

eyescicle · #**151** 04.06.09, 11:08 AM

i agree. i've definitely seen demos of the TimeFactor that make it seem...lifeless. on the other hand, i've watched demos like this one that make me think it can be exceptionally useful! at this point, though, i don't think any presettable digidelay could sound more sterile than the Nova, so i think it'd be a step in the right direction.

also, as much as i dislike Digitech as a company, their Time Bender looks like the ****. it seems to have a bunch of the best features of the DD20, PitchFactor, and Boss Slicer in one. judging solely from the vids i've seen, i'll bet it would work phenomenally in your rig.

DemoColorScheme · #**152** 04.06.09, 11:26 AM

Yeah, I saw that vid this morning. Tatoi and I have some contact via YouTube, he's a cool guy. Just a delay freak like us.

And the Time Bender, really? I've seen some videos of it and don't find it interesting at all. On the other hand I'd really like the PitchFactor! I normally really don't like pitch shifting at all, but the PitchFactor gives some interesting features that can still sound pretty organic. I would still prefer the ModFactor though. I would really like to A/B that one versus the Choralflange to see how deep that chorus can go. 'Cause deep analog chorus is REALLY the key of my scapes.

Talking about pitch shifting, I'm borrowing Berarduur's PS-3 next week. I'm gonna play around with mode 7 a lot, I think. I played it shortly at his place but I'd really would like to hear it in my own rig. Here's a nice vid of a decent PS-3 sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hqZNNsBy9E

I already borrowed his Pearl Octaver as well, though I don't really like it. Lol, I'm stripping him clean pedal by pedal!

I'm GASing so much lately. I still want a lot of pedals, though I'm out of real estate and I'm really wanting that tube pre-amp/hi-gain head!

eyescicle · #**153** 04.06.09, 11:36 AM

very cool. i love the ps-3. the coolest setting on the whole pedal--for me anyway--is mode 7 with no pitchshift. that setting with some good wet reverb gives an incredible tremolo picking tone.

my issue with the Time Bender (again, with no real first-hand experience) is that it's probably 10 pounds of decent-sounding features crammed into a 5 pound bag. i'd love to know that the octave-plus-fifth harmony trails sounds is cool in real life, but i don't trust Digitech that far. too bad they tease me with what could be a really effing cool pedal...

DemoColorScheme · #**154** 04.06.09, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by eyescicle

very cool. i love the ps-3. the coolest setting on the whole pedal--for me anyway--is mode 7 with no pitchshift. that setting with some good wet reverb gives an incredible tremolo picking tone.

Let's give that a try then! I'm always looking to improve my tremolo-picking settings.

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Originally Posted by eyescicle

my issue with the Time Bender (again, with no real first-hand experience) is that it's probably 10 pounds of decent-sounding features crammed into a 5 pound bag. i'd love to know that the octave-plus-fifth harmony trails sounds is cool in real life, but i don't trust Digitech that far. too bad they tease me with what could be a really effing cool pedal...

Well, try one out when you have the chance? I'm thinking about going to a store in the Netherlands this month [Feedback - huge music store] where I'm gonna try out a bunch of pedals and amps. Ha, they probably won't be all too happy with that, but **** it, they can't refuse if I say I'm interested in buying something!

DemoColorScheme · #**155** 04.10.09, 5:00 PM

Well, last week I got the iSP Decimator in. It sadly didn't do what I was hoping for. I thought the tracking would really let through delay and reverb trails because it was 'more than just a noise gate'. The case is, it's not. It's good, really, it's fast etc. But it's just a noise gate not something that 'takes away your noise' like it's advertised. If all goes well, someone is picking it up tomorrow for €125,- .. a bit of loss seeing as I paid €145,- for it.

Also, I got in Berarduur's PS-3 [which was toma's PS-3 - small world, huh?

] to play around with. I put it in the loop together with my Choralflange and started messing around with the normal delay modes, suddenly I had reinvented my delay flavor. As of now I'm running digital delay BEFORE analog instead of the other way around - which I always did. It drastically switched my playing around and makes me enjoy the sound so much more. Lovely. Tomorrow I'm gonna sit down and recalibrate my Nova Delay for this new setup.

Also, the PS-3 does a pretty decent chorus though I haven't really been able to use the pitchshifting modes on it. Mode 7 is okay, the rest is just not for me. It's hard making it feel and sound organic.

Besides all this I'm really considering getting the ModFactor next to the TimeFactor that I'm saving up for. Has anyone seen the Undulator setting on the ModFactor? Fascinating! See 6:35 and on this vid [especially the 2nd setting]:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLdwLe4xhew

Or here, from 7:14 on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5oYH...eature=related

eyescicle · #**156** 04.10.09, 8:36 PM

honestly, whenever i use the undulator setting, i'm always reminded of the more atmospheric stuff you do. i think that'll be a great fit for you. if you end up getting a MF though, be sure to include an expression pedal. it makes it infinitely more useable.

DemoColorScheme · #**157** 04.11.09, 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eyescicle

honestly, whenever i use the undulator setting, i'm always reminded of the more atmospheric stuff you do.

Ha, that's cool! Really!

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Originally Posted by eyescicle

i think that'll be a great fit for you. if you end up getting a MF though, be sure to include an expression pedal. it makes it infinitely more useable.

Yeah, I'm seriously leaning towards it. I found one on the internet, used, for €350,- I'm sure I can scrape a little off of it to make it €325,- or so.
I'm seriously considering just taking the leap and buying it and selling my Choralflange. In all honesty, I use the Choralflange more for soundscapes and swelling stuff than 'normal playing' since I don't like to be bothered switching settings each time since the Chorus setting I have for the swelling stuff is DEEP and chorus heavy [90% wet chorus].

Expression pedal seems to be a must, yeah!
Josh? Is the MF able to do DEEP chorus? Ever tried the CF? How does it compare with the chorus' on the ModFactor? I would really like to A/B them since my signature 'scape sound has always been the CF.

stratguy23 · #**158** 04.11.09, 2:00 AM

Wow the undulator sounds really cool. All of the effects sound pretty good on that pedal.

DemoColorScheme · #**159** 04.11.09, 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by stratguy23

Wow the undulator sounds really cool. All of the effects sound pretty good on that pedal.

Yeah, I love the chorus' on it as well! I probably would never use the ringmod though, me using a wah is something that I can't really imagine much as well.

stratguy23 · #**160** 04.11.09, 2:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DemoColorScheme

Yeah, I love the chorus' on it as well! I probably would never use the ringmod though, me using a wah is something that I can't really imagine much as well.

Ya, I wouldn't have any use for a ring mod either. I actually had one on my Keeley MM-4, but I never used it. I would agree that the chorus does sound good.

DemoColorScheme · #**161** 04.14.09, 3:37 AM

Guys,
I've been working with the BOSS RC-20XL for a long time now but I've always hated the fact that it seems to have this 'random crackle' when I record loops on loops. I'm not sure how this is possible, to be honest. Perhaps a power issue? Although I doubt it, since it's not apparent when I'm not looping.

The other problem with the RC-20XL is that I can't easily connect soundscape loops. It's hard because it cuts off when you press rec again. This always leaves this overlap between textures. This has nothing to do with timing etc. and I CAN get over it by looping textures over that first loop while keeping the record button triggered so the gap eventually isn't there anymore because of the others loops stacking on it.

Now I've been wondering, is there a looper that keeps on looping when you press rec instead of stopping? The only looper that does this is the DL-4. I used to loop with that one back in the days and it was so much more creative because you could start recording and press 'record/overdub' again and it would automatically overdub without stopping the record function and having to press 'record' again, as with the RC-20XL. That's what I really liked about that. But now I don't use the DL-4 for looping anymore.

The thing I DO like about the RC-20XL is the fact you can store loops, great stuff.

Anyways, has anyone had this problem as well and how would you go about it? Is there another looper you'd recommend?

DemoColorScheme · #**162** 04.16.09, 4:49 AM

I've been looking at getting a new head to combine with my Fender '69 Silverface [modded to Blackface by Berarduur] Twin Reverb for some high gain stuff. I'm especially looking at that 'heavy' sludgy, doom-kinda post-metal sound. So, a lot is focused on low-end.

The distortion I'm running now is completely from pedals [see my rig thread in my sig] and I personally think it sucks. Nothing compares to tube saturation and I'm really getting sick of my gain pedals.

The original plan I had with Berarduur is to build a Mesa Boog Dual Rectifier pre-amp section to connect to my Fender Twin Reverb powerstage so I could switch pre-amps while using the same power section. So, best of both worlds, Fender cleans [which I love] with that Mesa Boogie Dual Rec. sound. But I'm open to some suggestion to combine with a Tonebone Headbone VT:
- http://www.tonebone.com/tb-headbone-vt.htm

Also, if I would bypass the pre-amp section of the Twin Reverb and use the Twin Reverb as a cab, is it advised to close the back?

The guitar I'm running now in IZAH [the post-metal/sludge/noise band I'm in] is a modified Gibson SG-X: 500T Gibson bucker in the bridge [pretty high output], Gibson alnico mini humbucker in the neck, coil tap and a tremolo system of an unknown brand [to me]. The guitar is strung with .012 Elixirs. It's tuned in B standard.
- http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y24...difiedSG-X.jpg

So, I don't think the guitar is the problem.

So, are there any amps that would suit this style of playing? Especially for this lower tuning. I'm just looking at gain sounds, I'm good in the clean department.

DemoColorScheme · #**163** 04.16.09, 4:50 AM

By the way; I found a 2nd hand ModFactor and it's coming in tomorrow!
Let's see how it's gonna do me good.

eyescicle · #**164** 04.16.09, 7:07 AM

congrats on the MF!

i hear where you're coming from on wanting a distortion head. for the longest time, my rig was just an Ampeg VT40 combo and all my gains were pedals. it was OK, but lacked the sense of depth that comes with, as you said, tube saturation.

so for amps, are you wanting suggestions for heads? combos? something else? i played through a JCM600 at a local Music Go Round yesterday that sounded surprisingly good for what we do. i know you've kind of referenced Marshall a bit in your search for good distortion tones, and it was being sold for moderately inexpensive as well. also, i've always really enjoyed the sound of a Peavey Classic amp, ironically enough, for doomy sounds. for whatever reason, a handful of EL-84s really did well in that regard. other good ones (though i can't imagine some of them being easy to find where you are) are a RedBear MK or MKE head and the Sovtek MIG H-series (i wasn't sure if these would get heavy enough until we played with BraveYoung earlier this month and it sounded incredible!).

keep me updated!

farpavillions · #**165** 04.16.09, 8:59 AM

Congrats on the ModFactor!

I agree with what eyescicle said in regards to the amps. Those are the amps I'm looking at to a/b with my Sunn.

Another option might be a Blackface Mesa Single Rectifier. I find it's a bit more loose than the Dual Rec and I much prefer it for sludge/doom tones. The bottom end stands out more as well. Check one out if you get the chance!

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