My rig, and a plea for help.

landers · #1 02.15.08, 12:59 PM

So here's what I got, and what I need you're help with.

I am currently in a two piece "Everything But the Girl" meets the "cocetau twins" by way of "the divine comedy" and "red house painters" band. I do all the music, and I loop multiple parts. I am playing guitar, mandolin, piano, bass, and lap steel.

I want to finish up my rack rig to allow me to plug into the house PA with everything, my setup, vocals, the whole 10 yards. And be able to record our shows so I can archive them.

I currently run, Tele(GK-3 equipped)-Roland GI20- (synth signal)-31band eq- dod 12 second delay - Aleis Quadraverb - mixer - Jamman - out
(guitar signal) - 31 band eq - Compressor - Volume pedal - Boss acoustic simulator - Whammy - Z-VEx fuzz factory - Rat - Dod 7 band Eq - Boss PH-2 - Boss PS-5 - Boss FL-2 - V-Amp Pro - Boss DD-3 - Digitech XP-400 - Boss HM-2 - Digitech digidelay - Boss PN-2 - Boss DD-20 - Digiverb - Quadraverb - Mixer - Jamman - Out

Okay, so I need some help getting the res of this figured out. A pain belive me I know. I have a patch bay, and behringer Rackmount limiter that can be used. I am planning on getting a rack mount 8 DI box for mandolin and bass and vocals and the synth signal and piano.

For the actual recording I might want to go with a DAT? I can't afford a laptop, which is what I should and will get eventually. I'm looking at getting a behringer tube mic pre amp and replacing the tubes. I am also getting a midi floorboard to control this stuff.

I really want this set-up to double as my recording set up. I am poor, but this band is to difficult to play in without all this crap, sometime I feel I should form a Ramones cover band and be done with it

So what should I do? What do I need? any help is appreciated.

falldowngoboom4 · #2 02.15.08, 8:18 PM

Id get a GCX rackmount switcher and a preamp that sounds pretty good direct clean and will take your pedals well.

landers · #3 02.16.08, 3:22 PM

Well my Vamp Pro works well for a pre amp, plus it gives me the versatility that I need.

The switcher is something I need. Good call.

Anything else? I really need help with recording stuff, possibly a hard disk recorder?

falldowngoboom4 · #4 02.16.08, 4:01 PM

hadn't noticed the vamp.
angels and airwaves uses these paladin speaker simulators live and they sound good, might want to try one.

jm417 · #5 02.17.08, 12:00 AM

honestly, I'd just save up and get a computer and install software like ProTools or similar. A decent desktop model would probably work fine unless you are planning to record live shows or at someone else's place. DAT is good but most people nowadays use software based recording methods. If you don't do that, I'd just go with a Hard drive based workstation. Tascam makes a nice 24 track workstation that is going for $800 on musician's friend. you can't find anything else that versatile for under $1200 anywhere else.

landers · #6 02.17.08, 5:45 AM

See I already have some recording software on my computer. This is for recording live shows.I figured DAT would be cheap enough and effective enough for those, then when I got back I could pop it on my computer and edit away there.
But a hard disk recorder is another idea I've been throwing around, anyone know the pro's con's v.s. a DAT system?

jm417 · #7 02.18.08, 10:42 PM

well the sound is a lot more controllable with a hard disk recorder because it is an all in one multi track unit. you would need to buy a separate mixer and power amp for the DAT to get the same flexibility as with the Hard Disk.

landers · #8 02.19.08, 10:25 AM

Yea, I guess I just have more experience with DAT. More comfortable and whatnot. BUt I think I'll look into a hard disk recorder.

Any other suggestions, or high praise, or low jabs, welcome and encouraged.

DAVIDCOUPE · #9 07.25.08, 6:13 PM

How do you like that XP-400? I have one on hold at a local shop for $50. Actually, you've just reminded me, what the hell is taking them so long to call me?!?! I'm pretty excited to try that infinite reverb feature. How do you power yours?

thezealots · #10 07.25.08, 7:01 PM

i think you should join the ramones cover band.

groy · #11 07.26.08, 5:59 AM

+1 Ramones

stratguy23 · #12 10.02.08, 12:30 PM

I love the tone of the acoustic on Amanda. Also, your electric rig is cool. I would say you need to add some high-end modulation pedals. PH-2s are good for modern phasing sounds, but I like my Small Stone and my Phase 100 better. It seems like you have your pedal bases covered other than that though.

iaresee · #13 10.02.08, 1:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by falldowngoboom4
hadn't noticed the vamp.
angels and airwaves uses these paladin speaker simulators live and they sound good, might want to try one.

Did you mean Palmer Speaker Simulator? I've never heard of the Paladin. The PGA-04 is a great box for running silent and direct into FOH or to use in a wet/dry rig with a loaded down head.

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